Testing Chat Thread

[adr-admin]

i thought about editing in a note saying "obviously violence can play a successful, even major part in bringing political change" but i figured it is indeed obvious and thus didn't need to be spelled out


alas though there's only one thing that happens consistently in online discussions: disappointment

[adr-admin]

btw i just ate doritos again, not even a lot of them, just a little... and now my stomach is yelling at me again

will i never learn??

[Dooey Jo]

there is no such thing as an "online discussion"

on the internet there are only debates

[Bakustra]

there is no such thing as an "online discussion"

on the internet there are only debates is only shitposting

[adr-admin]

whoa whoa so i just saw this on one of my most trusted news sites:

According to a report published on the Guardian website, the US has routinely launched double or triple drone attacks in Pakistan, even though targeting rescuers after an initial attack is considered by Washington as an act of terrorism.

lol i'm almost certain they're referring to glenn greenwald's opinion piece from yesterday.


but what's funny here is this is like third hand info now; i really wouldn't call it a "report" because it is too far away from a primary source. press tv says that greenwald said that the bureau of investigative journalism said that a pakistani newspaper said that a witness said that the us bombed rescuers

or press tv says that greenwald said that wikileaks said that the us killed reporters (the video on wikileaks is certainly a primary source but they edited it which could remove important context so it is still he said they said)



i'm not saying any of this is necessarily wrong (in fact, i don't doubt the factual authenticity of anything said here at all), but that's an awful lot of layers of potential misinterpretation and bias. you might take presstv with a grain of salt, but then you see "a report from the Guardian" and be like "oh that's a little more credible" and then maybe do a web search and come up with a third other link....

...but it is deceptive because they are all actually talking about one another and it ultimately goes back to the same one primary source, so it isn't really corroboration at all.



BTW, they all do it; the new york times said haaretz said an unnamed official said israel may strike (the only source is the unnamed israeli official) or fox news reports that the wall street journal has broken a story saying jennifer aniston is getting married (who knows what the source is, then watch for the followup "msnbc reports on controversy out of the murdoch camp re celebrity engagement"), etc.

i made that last "story" up btw, jennifer aniston actually getting married? give me a fucking break.

[adr-admin]

LOL i hereby name this phonemon "fact laundering"

[Oxymoron]

So, have you people heard about that "Tripwire" shit ? It seems the US has gone full-on Minority Report.

http://diarrheaworldstarhiphop.tumblr.c ... eal-secret

(sorry for it being a tumblr post, but I haven't found a better "TL;DR" link)

[RogueIce]

fuck ghandi

okay

[Oxymoron]

Which one ?

[Flagg]

Send it to me with $10,000 American in small bills. It will be done.

[evilsoup]

So, have you people heard about that "Tripwire" shit ? It seems the US has gone full-on Minority Report.

http://diarrheaworldstarhiphop.tumblr.c ... eal-secret

(sorry for it being a tumblr post, but I haven't found a better "TL;DR" link)

whoa holy shit

[Flagg]

Not only that, but we have other countries do it for us as well.

[Oxymoron]

Stark : I know. It's not the fact hey're doing it that find "shocking" - it's only logical given their history, and I've always known they do something like that as soon as they'd have the technology.


What amaze me is that they managed to pull that one in relative secrecy, and that it only come up now in the news, and because of leaks coming from a (hacked) Stratfor database of all places.

Plus, you gotta love the Obama administration (the Executive) telling in no uncertain terms to the Judiciary to go fuck themselves.


You just -know- a Thousand conspiracy theorists are gonna jump on that bone.

Not only that, but we have other countries do it for us as well.

Though here it's not "just" about listening to communications, but associating a widespread & country-wide CCTV network with facial recognition techs to actively track "suspected terrorists". And if what the article said is true, the latest amemdments to the NDAA or whatever it's called allow the US gubmint to lock up any "suspected terroristss" as it wills.

This has some serious 1984 vibes, for me.

[Oxymoron]

And correction, the keyword is "TrapWire" and not "Tripwire".

[evilsoup]

I knew that there was spying & sharing of information amongst US&friends, I assumed it was a bit more targeted than just recording EVERYTHING

[Questor]

This thread is making my head hurt.

[Oxymoron]

Stark : Sorry for me being kinda slow brained, but what is it that you find lol-worthy in particular with the idea ? The fact it's city sized, or the fact the idea that the US spy everything everywhere always forever is so ingrained in our collective psyche that when people read that it doesn't break their suspension of disbelief ?

Or something else ?

[evilsoup]

if the point is to 'prevent terrorism', then wouldn't it need identifiable information?

[Flagg]

Round up the mooslims!

[RogueIce]

Someone strangle this fuckwit

Now now Stark.

Violence is never the answer. Haven't you been following the Royal Edicts of adr?

God damn it who killed that adr word filter?

[evilsoup]

whoa what
stark chill out man

[Flagg]

All bronies shall be sent to the ovens.

[Oxymoron]

Unrelated, but do any of you know where or how I can legally procure myself a copy of Worms Armaggeddon that'd work on Win7 without me having to tinker with DosBox ? It's the only title in the whole series that seems worth playing, and it is neither on Steam, Impulse/Gamestop or GOG.com.


Edit : I am dumb, I didn't check Team17 website beforehand. They sell it directly without third-party.

[adr-admin]

Haven't you been following the Royal Edicts of adr?

no no you don't understand. violence is not the answer when your differences are political, but when they're personal that's a whole other story

saddle up, lock and load

God damn it who killed that adr word filter?

i thought it got old so i killed it

same with the one on 'utilitarianism'

[RogueIce]

i thought it got old so i killed it

Should've made it normalcase instead of all caps.

same with the one on 'utilitarianism'

That was even a filter? What did it replace with?