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Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:28 am
by The Spartan
No, she's got internet. That means she can watch shows on the interwebs.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:45 am
by Aaron
Oh right!
Thats cool then, gotta have some recreation even if your poor.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:45 am
by Agent Bert Macklin
It's sickening that Kamakazie Shit supports police brutality. OMG OUTSIDE THE PERMIT ZONE FUCK THOSE BITCHES/
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:49 am
by starku
he's basically admitted int he past that he doesn't think comunity policing works and that he's basically at war with the rest of society
ps this might be a fucking terrible mindset for police to have
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:17 am
by artemas
the thing is is that community policing only does work if the relationship between the citizenry and the police is still good
if it degenerates then its really hard to repair it, and often requires work from both sides
civil-police relations are a self-reinforcing thing, if the relationship is good, it helps strengthen the relationship, if its poor, it just degenerates further
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:22 am
by starku
When the cops are unapologetic about brutality, quotas, profiling and corruption, no shit community policing doesn't work
Protip: maybe that's not the fault of the civilians
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:29 am
by artemas
no, that part isnt, but it engenders distrust in the people, who then avoid, hinder, flee, or don't inform, the police. which in turn reinforces the polices' viewpoint that the people are the enemy
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:30 am
by starku
I gotta say I'm finding it really hard to have sympathy for the corrupt violent and legally immune side here
If they choose a culture of adversarial confrontation for everything, they might as well just rename themselves peace soldiers and be done
Itd be different if they even accepted their approach was counterproductive, but it's clear from sdn that they dont
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:39 am
by artemas
lol
yeah, the other problem is that for community policing to work, you generally need people from that community
poor relations make it difficult not only to get police to drive for mor recruits from those areas, but also for members of the community to want to join
if the people of a neighbourhood hate the cops, they're not going to fucking join up, are they?
and so police will be doubly disadvantaged if/when they do try community policing, as they are distrusted for not only being a cop, but also being an outsider
edit: but yeah, i agree that the onus rests on the police, and they need to come the farthest in reaching out. my point was just that it cuts both ways
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:53 am
by Flagg
KS is just a standard pig. Working security I knew enough cops and wannabe cops to figure out that 80% are just honest guys who will blindly follow orders, 10% are tiny dicked fuckwits and 10% are sociopaths who enjoy the power being a cop gives them over others.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:38 pm
by Flagg
Zod wrote:
Shit happens.
If you really wanted to be a dick you'd use this whenever she complains about being poor.
If I had a nickel for every time that dumb cunt overreacted to something I'd be a rich man. But she'd still be poor.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:11 pm
by Aaron
Knubfuck wrote:It's sickening that Kamakazie Shit supports police brutality. OMG OUTSIDE THE PERMIT ZONE FUCK THOSE BITCHES/
The whole concept of a permit and a zone to protest in is pretty offensive by itself. As long as you don't obstruct traffic, then go nuts.
Basic freedoms dude.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:20 pm
by adr-admin
The permit isn't really asking for permission as just filing a schedule.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:11 pm
by Zod
Aaron wrote:Knubfuck wrote:It's sickening that Kamakazie Shit supports police brutality. OMG OUTSIDE THE PERMIT ZONE FUCK THOSE BITCHES/
The whole concept of a permit and a zone to protest in is pretty offensive by itself. As long as you don't obstruct traffic, then go nuts.
Basic freedoms dude.
on the other hand zones kinda make sense
otherwise it would be pretty trivial for a cop to claim that someone was obstructing traffic and the protestor wouldn't be able to contest them
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:46 pm
by Losonti Tokash
Aaron wrote:Knubfuck wrote:It's sickening that Kamakazie Shit supports police brutality. OMG OUTSIDE THE PERMIT ZONE FUCK THOSE BITCHES/
The whole concept of a permit and a zone to protest in is pretty offensive by itself. As long as you don't obstruct traffic, then go nuts.
Basic freedoms dude.
Depends on the jurisdiction but here you don't need a permit to protest as long as walkways are clear. The permit is basically telling the city saying "this is where our march plans to go and a rough timetable." It also lets us use amplification which would prohibited. Instances where you can't get that permission like New York are where you see human megaphones come into play.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:37 pm
by Veef
Jimmy boy is schooling us over TPM
home schooling amirite
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:51 pm
by Bakustra
for those about to be owned
we salute you
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:33 pm
by Aaron
Well if its being used to justify brutality...
Lol so Jimbo is still at it. He should write a program to post for him.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:52 pm
by Stofsk
i have to admit i am flabbergasted that thread is still going on
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:07 pm
by thejester
are you not familiar with the work of Jim Raynor or...?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:11 pm
by starku
If everyone in that thread said 'I haven't read your previous dissertation on RLM but...' I think he'd have an aneurysm
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:49 pm
by adr-admin
mang threads about "realistic" sci fi are always a bit of a lol to me
but i still love it
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:10 pm
by Veef
Hey Seaquest DSV is science fact-ion
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:35 am
by Flagg
VF5SS wrote:Hey Seaquest DSV is science fact-ion
Like that time they found Atlantis?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:04 am
by Flagg
Poor Cunt Choculol, his man-crush on Herman Cain will destroy him.