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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:51 am
by timmy
I liked Adumar(the one after the one I'm reading) because happy ending(Wedge got to bang this girl he's been in love with for a while)

Also (personal opinion) Alston was better at developing characters

I am slamming the brackets today ey

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:55 am
by Stofsk
TBH after reading Wraith Squadron I was kinda hoping for more from Adumar, but it had a completely different tone than what I was expecting. Zahn's books are still the best beside the obvious weaknesses and criticisms.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:01 pm
by timmy
Adumar was an interesting case study in how all of Stackpole's books would have been if Alston had written them

None of this 'try to make Corran Horn a relatable character because he chose not to become a jedi because he's a former cop who became a starfighter pilot wait what'

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:04 pm
by Veef
yub yub, commander

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:51 pm
by RogueIce
timmy wrote:Speaking of Wars I've been re-reading the X-Wing series

In the penultimate book, set just after the end of the Thrawn crisis, Wedge Antilles suggests that suspected WMDs are enough justification to attack a sovereign nation and kill its leader

What the fuck Stackpole
And it came out in 1999. Clearly, Stackpole is a prophet. :smug:

IIRC they only found the "WMD" thingy after they started the invasion though, and Ackbar and Wedge did kinda agree the invasion was on pretty shaky ground but the NR was basically doing it to prove they were still viable after Thrawn wrecked their shit. I imagine that "Death Star III" fake thing they found was just latched on in an attempt to provide further justification after the fact.
Stofsk wrote:Zahn's books are still the best beside the obvious weaknesses and criticisms.
Zahn has no weaknesses and to criticize his work is heretical. :fukyu:

More seriously though, I think most of what people complain about Zahn tends to be a little overblown. Or at the worst something he got into over time. I mean, Thrawn was hot shit in the original trilogy but he was by no means infallible after all.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:05 pm
by Veef
RogueIce wrote: Zahn has no weaknesses and to criticize his work is heretical. :fukyu:
not after i look through crayon drawings he did in first grade :smug:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:25 pm
by Darksi4190
Stackpole's X-wing Novels are bland, and the character work is much worse than anything in Alliston's, but they're still decent reads.

I've been re-reading the Rogue Squadron comics that Stackpole did though and they're actually pretty good. Maybe it's the different medium, but the characters seem more animated.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:00 pm
by Director of Celestial Intelligence
God, what a bunch of fucking nerds.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:55 pm
by Nietzslime
to me, all this star wars tv show stuff is a farce, so i grabbed the appropriate article to explain my feelings and intend to handle 'arguing' with hav likewise

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:56 pm
by Losonti Tokash
"allowing gays to marry would be like letting living people attend their own funeral"

wat

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:20 pm
by Aaron
I got nothing

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:37 pm
by Darksi4190
Nietzslime wrote:to me, all this star wars tv show stuff is a farce, so i grabbed the appropriate article to explain my feelings and intend to handle 'arguing' with hav likewise
I think Lucas does have a sort of "general idea" of what he wants to do with the SW tv show, but this talk of 50 episodes being written is clearly bullshit. He's just being to much of a perfectionist. He want's the special effects to look just like the awesome shit in the movies and he's never going to get that on a T.V. budget. Honestly, right now they don't really need to. The Clone Wars and TOR are financially successful, and doing a very good job in keeping the SW brand name out there, hell, they even have the occasional glimmer of quality to them. There's no real pressure to move forward with the live action series right now, so if Lucas wants to wait for new technology, no one's going to tell him otherwise.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:38 pm
by Darksi4190
Losonti Tokash wrote:"allowing gays to marry would be like letting living people attend their own funeral

wat

The fuck? What is that from?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:39 pm
by Zod
Darksi4190 wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:"allowing gays to marry would be like letting living people attend their own funeral

wat

The fuck? What is that from?
check N&P

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:41 pm
by Akhlut
Darksi4190 wrote:There's no real pressure to move forward with the live action series right now, so if Lucas wants to wait for new technology, no one's going to tell him otherwise.
The grim specter of death might. :v

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:43 pm
by Darksi4190
That's true. How old is Lucas these days? He might want to get some last stuff done in the SW universe before he hands his legacy off to someone else.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 pm
by Akhlut
He's 68.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:48 pm
by Darksi4190
Oh.

Here's a fun new idea! Speculate who should lead the franchise when Lucas croaks. I'm sure it'll be a well-reasoned discussion on the merits of various individuals and not a bunch of wishful thinking!

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:52 pm
by Akhlut
Darksi4190 wrote:Oh.

Here's a fun new idea! Speculate who should lead the franchise when Lucas croaks. I'm sure it'll be a well-reasoned discussion on the merits of various individuals and not a bunch of wishful thinking!
Christopher Nolan, so he can make it dark and edgy.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:54 pm
by Darksi4190
Please tell me you're joking, because I just got a mental image of Luke Skywalker speaking in Christian Bale's Batman Voice.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:03 pm
by Veef
I think that Rick guy is just going to take over since he speaks for Lucas all the time anyways

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:41 pm
by Count Chocula
Darksi4190 wrote:Please tell me you're joking, because I just got a mental image of Luke Skywalker speaking in Christian Bale's Batman Voice.
That would suck. "Benn, I'm your faaatherr" just lacks a certain je ne sais quoi.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:45 pm
by Darksi4190
Veef wrote:I think that Rick guy is just going to take over since he speaks for Lucas all the time anyways
Christ I hope not. This is the guy who was to spineless to rein in Lucas during the Prequels, remember? I've always wished he'd get fired and replaced with someone who could actually say no to Lucas from time to time. Whenever someone's around to rein him in, Lucas can actually make something good.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:50 pm
by Veef
I'm pretty sure Lucas would just fire someone who told him "no."

And when was the last time he made anything good on his own?

Red Tails and Indy 4 were pretty dire even with outside help.

The guy was a one trick pony.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:56 pm
by Akhlut
What about Frank Miller?