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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:04 pm
by Darksi4190
I haven't seen Red Tails and I honestly didn't think Indy 4 was so terrible, so I really don't know what you're talking about Veef. I know some people give Lucas waaaaaay to much credit for the quality of the OT *coughcough*Elfdart*coughcough* but He isn't as terrible as some of the "raped my childhood" brigade make him out to be. He's certainly better than say, Micheal Bay or Roland Emmerich

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:08 pm
by Veef
He's just some guy who got lucky and now he's no longer needed

just like Star Wars

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:11 pm
by Nietzslime
I haven't seen Red Tails and I honestly didn't think Indy 4 was so terrible, so I really don't know what you're talking about Veef. I know some people give Lucas waaaaaay to much credit for the quality of the OT *coughcough*Elfdart*coughcough* but He isn't as terrible as some of the "raped my childhood" brigade make him out to be. He's certainly better than say, Micheal Bay or Roland Emmerich
Being better than the two most infamous hacks of our generation is not a sterling accomplishment for an artist.

...

Well, I guess Brett Ratner is more infamous than Roland, but NEVERTHELESS.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:13 pm
by Darksi4190
Veef wrote:He's just some guy who got lucky and now he's no longer needed

just like Star Wars
What do you mean by "star wars is no longer needed?"

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:17 pm
by Phantasee
it told the story

if we could let go of the IP we could make new stories

with new characters and settings

ORIGINAL CONTENT

instead of another rehashing of the same shit over and over

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:19 pm
by The Spartan
Veef wrote:He's just some guy who got lucky and now he's no longer needed

just like Star Wars
I think it's high time we had a hangin'!

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:20 pm
by Aaron
Well it's pretty obvious that George has shot his wad, so yeah time to retire.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:20 pm
by Darksi4190
I can certainly agree with that in regards to the post-ROTJ era, they seriously need to let Luke, Han, Leia, and everybody else fucking retire already. There's certainly room for more decent stories to come out of the SW universe, it's a big universe after all, but we all know they probably won't make them. The good stuff nowadays is mostly self-contained and small scale. That's why I'm kind of excited for that new game they previewed at E3. You're a bounty hunter, and supposedly the force, jedi, and sith don't factor in to it at all.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:21 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
Nietzslime wrote:Being better than the two most infamous hacks of our generation is not a sterling accomplishment for an artist.
Michael Bay is amazing. I don't think he'll eclipse The Island, though.

On a relevant note, I nave never comprehended the "raped my childhood" complaints about Lucas. Did he get rid of your enjoyment for those films that you grew up with? Do you look back on those memories and hate them?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:22 pm
by Aaron
No, I regret giving him money.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:23 pm
by Veef
Star Wars was an indispensable event in pop culture and sci fi history

so much of the time after ROTJ was filled with nerds pioneering their own ideas trying to make their own Star Wars or to build on ideas they got from watching it

by the time it returned to the big screen, so much of it had been absorbed into thousands of other stories that the magic was lost

Lucas's inability to create good movies with the prequels squandered everything he had left

only the name keeps it going

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:25 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
See, I never saw the original cuts of the OT. The 2004 special editions were my first foray into the series. I personally never want to see the originals. And I'll keep defending his bukkake on film preservation to upset outraged fanboys.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:29 pm
by Aaron
Really? That's all there was when I was young.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:30 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
Yeah. I was blown away by those editions.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:34 pm
by Veef
what are you 12

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:40 pm
by Darksi4190
For a lot of SW fans, myself included, the special edition re-release was the first time they saw SW on the big screen. They made a powerful impression

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:45 pm
by Zod
Back in my day we had the original cuts on VHS and we liked it. Damn kids. :smugdog:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:52 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
Darksi4190 wrote:For a lot of SW fans, myself included, the special edition re-release was the first time they saw SW on the big screen. They made a powerful impression
Yep. I was 18 at the time.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:54 pm
by Chadz
I was in basic training and one of the dude's in my platoon's mom died or something and he went home for like a week. While there, he saw the re-release of ep. 4 and when he got back everyone wanted to hear about it. the only thing he could remember were explosion rings. We were all very disappointed.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:56 pm
by evilsoup
man I should probably get around to watching TESB some time
or even the whole of RotJ (i've seen the end at endor, but not the beginning)


-Alternatively, "Empire" and "Jedi" are acceptable. I'll even take ep.5 and ep.6 . 2 and 3 remind me of prequels and that's a bad thing. don't make me abuse my power again.



----Senator Chadz :godwin:

:neckbeard:

:smug:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:56 pm
by Veef
I was 12

sheesh

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:10 am
by Count Chocula
12 for the 1977 release of Star Wars or some other installment

enquiring minds kinda want to know

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:14 am
by Aaron
Yeah, i doubt that.

When did the special shit come out. I remember we all went off base in 99 for TPM but I'm not a fan of the SE.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:17 am
by Veef
only my FB friends know for sure

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:26 am
by Director of Celestial Intelligence
I only remember when I saw TPM because we went when I was in Charleston for my grandmother's funeral and my parents wanted to distract my cousin, my sister, and myself from the fact that she had died and they wanted us out of the way whilst they were finishing up preparations for the funeral and wake. We went to view the body before the wake after the movie on our way back to her house, suffice to say that was not a good day when you're a ten year old.