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Knubble tov wrote:

Zod wrote:figure i'll wait til it comes out on bluray

because i hate going to theaters

I'll go during matinee so the stupid teenagers and little children won't be present.

Questor: How do you feel about Alien 3? I know Fincher detests it because of studio meddling. I happened to enjoy it quite a bit because it was brooding and quite claustrophobic.

In Questor-world, only Alien, Aliens, and now Promethean exist.

It's good as a stand-alone horror movie, but it really marked the beginning of the steep descent into mass-market jump from the corners, Friday the 13th Horror for the Alien movies. Alien Resurrection was just weird.

evilsoup wrote:zod, that's the right choice
the only good thing about it is the special effects
which is a shame, because it could have been a good film fairly easily

Really? What didn't you like? I thought it was the best sci-fi film I've seen in a while.

Try not to post spoilers, mates.

none yet, you're safe

I just found the plot disjointed, one thing happened after another with very little logical connection; and I couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters (only a few of which felt 'real', and none of those were focus-characters).

I've put my thoughts w/spoilers about the film in the SDN thread

but man it was goddamn bullshit when the opened the door clearly marked 'alien queen' and found ripley in that life support pod
whta fucking time travel bullshit is this

Questor, why is it that this movie appears to be so hit or miss? Of the people I know who have seen it, nobody liked it more than "it wasn't a waste of time" and one person thought it was the worst movie he had ever seen. Although I don't know any truly dedicated sci fi fans that have seen it.

Evilsoup, SDN IS DEAD HAVE YOU NOT HEARD?

Darth Fanboy wrote:Questor, why is it that this movie appears to be so hit or miss? Of the people I know who have seen it, nobody liked it more than "it wasn't a waste of time" and one person thought it was the worst movie he had ever seen. Although I don't know any truly dedicated sci fi fans that have seen it.

Evilsoup, SDN IS DEAD HAVE YOU NOT HEARD?

it's been up intermittently

evilsoup wrote:I just found the plot disjointed, one thing happened after another with very little logical connection; and I couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters (only a few of which felt 'real', and none of those were focus-characters).

I've put my thoughts w/spoilers about the film in the SDN thread

but man it was goddamn bullshit when the opened the door clearly marked 'alien queen' and found ripley in that life support pod
whta fucking time travel bullshit is this

I hope your final sentence didn't happen because that would be an unmarked spoiler.

Darth: The dislike, from what I'm reading online, appears to be about hype. People became disappointed that someone who hasn't made a decent movie since Black Hawk Down didn't live up to their expectations. Always lower your expectations when you see something. That's my philosophy. I lower them for everything I see.

On a nerd note,Damon Lindelof, the guy who wrote the abysmal Star Trek (2009) movie, wrote Prometheus. So, naturally I'm not expecting anything great. He can't write movies for shit. He's better on TV.

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Oxymoron wrote:No, it's the Torrents.

It's always the torrents.

Fucking LOLed.

Also, because it's 420 breaux

Just think, you get pulled over carrying a half ounce of weed and go down. I can have a 24oz stash and 15 plants growing and the cops can't do shit to me. I revel in this.

man I kind of expected prometheus to be shit from the underwhelming trailer
only went to see it because I guess I'm a pathetic genre-slave
so my expectations were pretty low, and I was still disappointed

I did love the bit where it turned out that the Predators created humans as a kind of prey-animal, it was stupid enough to be funny; but the after-credits bit with Samuel L Jackson was a bit much - is there nothing they won't cross over with the avengers?

I saw Prometheus. What it has going for it are Michael Fassbender and the landscape of Iceland, who both outperform the rest of the movie by a mile. What it has going against it is that it's a plotless, nonsensical mess that clearly doesn't have any substance behind the flash, but only a series of increasing absurd, pointless twists and setpieces - a classic Damon Lindelof script, basically.

I can argue this point in more detail if anyone wants, though it will involve spoilers.

Darth Fanboy wrote:Questor, why is it that this movie appears to be so hit or miss? Of the people I know who have seen it, nobody liked it more than "it wasn't a waste of time" and one person thought it was the worst movie he had ever seen. Although I don't know any truly dedicated sci fi fans that have seen it.

Evilsoup, SDN IS DEAD HAVE YOU NOT HEARD?

I'm a dedicated Sci Fi fan and I thought the movie was pretty pathetic. There are a bunch of great scenes, but nothing ties them together. The plot and characters were lacking and there was no resolution, no revelation, and no reason to care. The "Jockeys" didn't do much and were not alien enough to create any sense of wonder. They come across like some half-ass SW EU race.

Is Scott not making two more movies to follow Prometheus?

Knubble tov wrote:Is Scott not making two more movies to follow Prometheus?

Maybe not if this film bombs like it should. Also, can you call a film a success if it can't stand on its own? It might take two sequels just to make sense of this mess.

And for the old "you're judging it harshly because it's an Alien prequel" argument I've heard a few people use, this movie would have been shitcanned and forgotten already if it didn't have the Alien connection, and many scenes would have been even more fruitless without the Alien mythos behind it adding sinister grandeur. It's not quite Phantom Menace bad, but it has about as a much to recommend it as viable movie on its own.

Pathetic.

This whole 'sdn being down' business is making me trolololol, actually. Course that could be the booze and sex talking

didn't scott decide it wasn't an alien prequel or something

It's a prequel for sure.

The film is fine. In fact I thought it was pretty great. It was intense, brooding etc. I mean blah blah blah there's no answers and it's unlikely that any of it happened for any reason but everyone loves Alien in which there are no answers and nothing happened for any reason. It's an effective sci-fi horror film. you might say 'well clearly it was aiming to be something more', except that's just what you're choosing to believe and well you know that might not end so well for you and your team of space going scientists.

Nietzslime wrote:I saw Prometheus. What it has going for it are Michael Fassbender and the landscape of Iceland, who both outperform the rest of the movie by a mile. What it has going against it is that it's a plotless, nonsensical mess that clearly doesn't have any substance behind the flash, but only a series of increasing absurd, pointless twists and setpieces - a classic Damon Lindelof script, basically.

I can argue this point in more detail if anyone wants, though it will involve spoilers.

I wish he'd just stick to television, to be honest. In fact, he recently said he's done with films, but he's re-writing World War Z. I'm currently making my way through LOST and it's phenomenal. The character work is bar none the best I've seen from a non-cable channel. Watching it in hindsight allows you to pick up on the themes that bring them all to the series finale, namely that they need to LET GO OF THEIR PAST.

I saw it last night and can make the following observations:

*It was a visual feast
*I agree that it didn't feel coherant, and the symbolism of the giant bust was lost on me
*That said, the setpeices were fantastic
*It is my firm opinion that Charlize Theron was extremely bangable in this film. Might have a thing for cold, hard beauty

Best scene in the film? Where's the spoiler/hide tages?

F.J. Prefect, Esq wrote:The film is fine.

yeah but you thought gundam 00 season 2 was fine

didn't you

No I didn't.

timmy wrote:Where's the spoiler/hide tages?

ADR's been too lazy to implement them.

F.J. Prefect, Esq wrote:No I didn't.

i'll let you live then

Knubble tov wrote: Darth: The dislike, from what I'm reading online, appears to be about hype. People became disappointed that someone who hasn't made a decent movie since Black Hawk Down didn't live up to their expectations. Always lower your expectations when you see something. That's my philosophy. I lower them for everything I see.

On a nerd note,Damon Lindelof, the guy who wrote the abysmal Star Trek (2009) movie, wrote Prometheus. So, naturally I'm not expecting anything great. He can't write movies for shit. He's better on TV.

I dunno, I thought American Gangster was a pretty solid movie and certainly much better than the gimmicky, obnoxious Hannibal or the tired, plodding Robin Hood. Ridley Scott has always been hit n' miss as a director, and his better work in years gone by have been in conjunction with other people (Alien and Blade Runner). I may see Prometheus later this week, it sounds better than the essentially unnecessary Alien: Resurrection (Alien 3 was a bit of mess as well, but it had a strong supporting cast going for it).