Testing Chat IV: A New Hope

[adr]

why on earth not

the holy texts warned against following anyone who promises to take away your pain, since they will lead you to a false god (who has no need for a starship!)

but seriously i just don't want to.

[Aaron]

I think the NSA would rather have you leave it on.

[Oxymoron]

I notice facebook has options to share with only me, friends, friends of friends, or the general public.

But where's the option to share with Big Brother? I guess you can't turn that one off.

Look, if you really were worried about privacy

you probably wouldn't be posting things on the internet.

[Aaron]

Probably shouldn't leave the house either.

[Oxymoron]

Exactly.

[RogueIce]

Probably shouldn't leave the house either.

Or buy an Xbox One.

[Aaron]

Yeah, I think I'll wait and see what happens when it comes out.

[Oxymoron]

People should probably start by having a clear idea of what they mean by "privacy" and what amount of it they really want before starting to rant about it being violated.



(and I say this as someone who heavily dislike using Facebook and is trying to find mean to stop using Google's services, just so you know)

[adr]

yea, the stuff i post on the facebook is pretty boringly trivial already cuz my work clients are on it anyway and they don't need to know

but nevertheless if someone really wanted to search me on the web it wouldn't be hard to find all kinds of crazy shit (as you guys are well aware of course)

oh well

[Oxymoron]

That's partly why I use a different nickname on every website I frequent


I am Legion

[Infinity Biscuit]

Oxy are you on SB and if so PM me your name there

[Oxymoron]

I'm not on Spacebattle.

I currently have only two "hangout" places on the web : here, and a pony-related forum (where I mostly talk about post-apocalyptic stuff ).

[Oxymoron]

On an unrelated note, I have to say this is damn funny

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Am I the only person here who has never been drunk and never intend to ?

Nope.

[Stofsk]

I notice facebook has options to share with only me, friends, friends of friends, or the general public.

But where's the option to share with Big Brother? I guess you can't turn that one off.

Look, if you really were worried about privacy

you probably wouldn't be posting things on the internet.

While there is some truth to this observation, I do think this is a pretty glib response to a general erosion of people's privacy rights that's taken place over the last decade or two. As Ford Prefect said in a related topic, the outrage is not that people can opt out of whatever electronic digital frontier that everyone else is part of (i.e. as a workable solution this is totally unfeasible, as you'd be cutting yourself off from what the mainstream social contact is nowadays and no mang is an island etc etc), it's that companies and governments think they can get away with constantly undermining people's privacy - the former even do so to make a quick buck, which IMO is far, far worse than the NSA hunting for tewwawists, Elmer Fudd style.

[evilsoup]

companies selling adverts are unlikely to have you detained without trial

[Dooey Jo]

it's only bad when the gubmint does it

which is why tomorrow we'll be living in cyberpunk and not even know it

They're just looking for the exact line at which they can turn off their brain, stop caring about the other person, and try to fuck someone worry free.

yeah exactly. the question they are hoping to answer isn't "what is rape" but "will i be considered a rapist if"

ie. a social question that completely excludes the victim from the equation except as a mindless parameter

but if someone thinks you have raped them there is basically no amount of science you can do to prove them wrong

[evilsoup]

what if you have like
video evidence of the whole thing
admittedly this has its own problem

[Aaron]

what if you have like
video evidence of the whole thing
admittedly this has its own problem

Man, there were three woman on a lineman course when I was on my trades course (we were all in the same barracks) that were basically gang raped on film.

It made the MP's and JAG's job super easy but...fuck me. I don't think I'll ever forget that.

[evilsoup]

christ

[The Spartan]

You know what bugs me about the whole NSA kerfuffle? Strangely, it's not the invasion of privacy (not that I'm okay with it mind you). It's the hypocrisy I see.

Given that I live in Texas I tend to get exposed to the right wing perspective and I am appalled how people who fell OVER themselves to make excuses for Bush (if you're not guilty, you don't have anything to worry about!) are doing the exact opposite for Obama. Granted, this sort of thing isn't limited to right-wingers, but my god it's irritating. Exacerbating the issue is that it seems that every other person feels the need to insert a political comment into every other conversation no matter how unrelated.

[evilsoup]

if you're not guilty, you don't have anything to worry about!

Funny how that argument never applies to secret government agencies

[Dooey Jo]

what if you have like
video evidence of the whole thing
admittedly this has its own problem

lack of feelings of being raped have proven elusive to being caught on video

but yeah basically stop thinking rape is a well-defined physical act and realize it's a psychological trauma, the exact triggers of which can differ between individuals and occasions, necessitating communication between involved parties to work out what's okay

[Flagg]

You know what bugs me about the whole NSA kerfuffle? Strangely, it's not the invasion of privacy (not that I'm okay with it mind you). It's the hypocrisy I see.

Given that I live in Texas I tend to get exposed to the right wing perspective and I am appalled how people who fell OVER themselves to make excuses for Bush (if you're not guilty, you don't have anything to worry about!) are doing the exact opposite for Obama. Granted, this sort of thing isn't limited to right-wingers, but my god it's irritating. Exacerbating the issue is that it seems that every other person feels the need to insert a political comment into every other conversation no matter how unrelated.

Well Obama had warrants, Bush did it illegally. There is a difference.

[Oxymoron]

So the fact Obama did something legally, something which has been approved and voted by the democratically elected members of congress make it worse enough to provoke popular outrage... how exactly ?