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#1151 Post by RogueIce »

Bakustra wrote:coming from people that are not actually involved with the field (barring Simon_Jester, who is in any case not who I'm talking about)
To be fair, do you actually know whether or not Andras himself is "involved with the field"? Since Ford's was the very first reply I don't think you can really justify his reply with those that came after, especially since pretty much all of them have been spurred by Ford's dismissive attitude in the first place.

I mean for all I know Andras does work in the "space field" or whatever and is knowledgeable about it for professional, not simply nerdy, reasons. And if Ford hadn't shown up with his "nobody cares" (and the implicit "lol stupid nerds" it carries) maybe that would have been a one post thread that slowly drifted off into nothingness.

But it didn't because people got annoyed at Ford's immediately dismissive and derisive response and we are where we are. So hijack successful I guess?

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#1152 Post by Bakustra »

RogueIce wrote:
Bakustra wrote:coming from people that are not actually involved with the field (barring Simon_Jester, who is in any case not who I'm talking about)
To be fair, do you actually know whether or not Andras himself is "involved with the field"? Since Ford's was the very first reply I don't think you can really justify his reply with those that came after, especially since pretty much all of them have been spurred by Ford's dismissive attitude in the first place.

I mean for all I know Andras does work in the "space field" or whatever and is knowledgeable about it for professional, not simply nerdy, reasons. And if Ford hadn't shown up with his "nobody cares" (and the implicit "lol stupid nerds" it carries) maybe that would have been a one post thread that slowly drifted off into nothingness.

But it didn't because people got annoyed at Ford's immediately dismissive and derisive response and we are where we are. So hijack successful I guess?
I'm guessing that he isn't, but even if he is, well, his dismissive attitudes (and the whole "if it isn't perfect it's shit" attitude they carry) would mark him as one of the tedious and unpleasant people everyone tries to avoid and dumps all the shit jobs (teaching pre-meds, etc.) onto. And I think that having that sort of discussion is actually better than a one-post thread that drifts off into nothingness, yes. For instance, owning the shit out of Batman, while somewhat like chewing gum and walking at the same time, is still a worthy endeavor. For another, it's not really a hijack, since he was literally responding to the original post.

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#1153 Post by Bakustra »

You know, I'm going to way overextend this, and point out that this sort of tedious literalism tends to create false views of religion. Quoting one recent example:
Yes Christianity which asks us to stone a significant number of the population is responsible for 21st century ethics.
Which is not a Christian precept anywhere in the Bible, or anywhere in the modern world. Even broadening stoning to killing in general, only fascist Christians would argue that that sort of thing is Christian. Treating Christianity like this can only negatively impact people's understanding of it and interaction with Christians, and if a lot of people believed that this was true about Christianity, you would see persecutions and assaults and killings. This is already happening- people think that Islam is all about forcing people to convert through conquest, and hey, whoops, now you've got laws that target Muslims and terrorist assaults on suspected Muslims and possibly even some murders where religious hatred is implicated. So this sort of thing, this ignorance, has real consequences, and a lot of it comes from treating everything as purely literal, whether in the Bible or Qu'ran, along with ignorance of the actual contents.

edit: of course, these are only some people on the Internet, but this is spreading and this sort of literalism is continually reinforced, which actually strengthens fundamentalism by portraying Biblical literalism as the only option.

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#1154 Post by Bakustra »

Now, let's turn this to right angles. I ended up trying to relive my past by reading a bunch of old fanfic stuff, and I read through a MST3Ked version of one of Sidewinder's fanfics. He is not a very good writer, folks. Not very good at all.


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Bakustra wrote:This is already happening- people think that Islam is all about forcing people to convert through conquest, and hey, whoops, now you've got laws that target Muslims and terrorist assaults on suspected Muslims and possibly even some murders where religious hatred is implicated. So this sort of thing, this ignorance, has real consequences, and a lot of it comes from treating everything as purely literal, whether in the Bible or Qu'ran, along with ignorance of the actual contents.

edit: of course, these are only some people on the Internet, but this is spreading and this sort of literalism is continually reinforced, which actually strengthens fundamentalism by portraying Biblical literalism as the only option.
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#1157 Post by Dooey Jo »

i believe the technical term is "politically correct cultural marxist media establishment"
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#1158 Post by F.J. Prefect, Esq »

RyanThunder wrote: Ford is a fucking idiot.
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#1159 Post by adr »

no it is a slow and boring movie
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#1160 Post by Bakustra »

adr wrote:no it is a slow and boring movie
ahahahahaha

you probably like paint your wagon

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#1161 Post by Bakustra »

I made a "how I would make a Wonder Woman movie" post on Facebook and I decided to inflict it on you all.
The origin story is revamped 40s- We begin with a brief introduction where Wonder Woman's mom, Hippolyta, relates the origins of Themyscira and the Amazons to some kids, then American pilot Steve Trevor crashes near a mysterious island, is rescued by Diana, who is Hippolyta's daughter with Hercules. Diana helps nurse him back to health, we figure out they're attracted to one another, and Hippolyta decides that one lucky Amazon gets to go back with Steve to see whether the world is ready for the Amazons to reveal themselves. Diana resolves to be the one, and we get a brief montage of training. Hippolyta asks the gods to guide Diana, and a couple of deities drop by to teach her a little bit about the modern world to blend in. Act 1 ends with Diana being chosen to return Steve Trevor and them arriving in some city.

Act 2 starts with Diana disguising herself as a military officer and offering to serve as "house mother" to a sorority, so she can learn as much as possible about Man's World. Etta Candy is introduced and basically becomes her sidekick as Diana resolves to do something about the sorry state of Man's World, we get some crime-busting sequences, including ones where she unveils embezzlement, discovers pollution, etc. In the process, we have some shady goings-on with supertech, and Diana trying out rom-com hijinks from watching TV and having them fail.

Act 3 reveals, thanks to Etta's compulsive detective disorder, that the supertech is linked to Cale Holdings, and we get some exposition about Veronica Cale, who started in pharmaceuticals and then made billions in cosmetics and now owns a bunch of companies. Diana investigates, and discovers a genius computer scientist and electronics engineer, Paula von Gunther, migrated from Austria to work with Cale Holdings. Then she has a fight with a couple of robots with lasers and gatling guns and then she uses her lasso of truth on the guy with the remote control to get him to spill the beans on Paula's location. Also, she figures out that Steve prefers Diana the Amazon.

Act 4 features another action scene as Diana breaks into Cale Holdings, deals with a bunch of deathtraps, and then confronts Paula von Gunther, who we've been seeing throughout the film... and it turns out she's working for Cale under duress, in order to get her daughter through college, for topicality. Diana offers to do anything she can to help, and then Cale releases all of the robots anyways, to try and blame things on Wonder Woman somehow.

Act 5 is Diana, Paula, and Etta working together to stop the robots, rescue a kidnapped Steve Trevor, and get Paula's daughter safely into hiding, following which a couple Amazons pick them up, offering the educational opportunity of a lifetime. Paula stays behind, saying that she wants to pay Diana back for her help. We cut between Hippolyta introducing herself to Paula's daughter, Veronica Cale crossing off "robots" on her "list of ways to stop Wonder Woman", and some kind of setup for the next movie (we have basically exhausted all of the OK Wonder Woman villains at this point). The stinger is Paula explaining how she's developing a revolution in stealth technology, in front of a bunch of airplane parts, possibly while we have a setup for Justice League.

Basically- the Amazons really do live on a Paradise, Wonder Woman is explicitly here to change the world for the better, and superscience robots coexist with Zeus. Veronica Cale is angry and more than a little jealous that Wonder Woman is able to ram through boundaries she wasn't able to, distinguishing her from Lex Luthor and his basically motiveless malignity towards Superman.

Character Notes: Wonder Woman: Whoever plays her needs to be fairly powerful-looking. Height isn't as big a deal because it's easier to block shots to play with height, but shoulder pads are right out. Antje Traue, who played Faora in Man of Steel, is a pretty good candidate.

Hippolyta: She should be older, somewhat dignified. Not Judi Dench old, but maybe Ellen Degeneres with a little makeup, to perhaps give this a lighthearted tinge? Or Helen Mirren, to make it more serious.

Steve Trevor: He should basically be wholesome, girl-next-door, but gender-swapped. His relationship with Wonder Woman is basically like a reversed Lois Lane-Clark Kent relationship. I have no idea who to cast here.

Etta Candy: Etta was created as Wonder Woman's Jimmy Olsen, but her main thing was being obese. There were a lot of uncomfortable jokes, but since these were the 40s and William Moulton Marston was cool for the time, these jokes ended up with her single-handedly liberating a concentration camp, and that sort of thing. So not a huge change to make her something less uncomfortable and really fun. We need somebody that's able to play a character who's cool and funny at the same time, like RDJ playing Tony Stark. Wanda Sykes is a little too old. So is Lea DeLaria. I guess that probably this would have to go to a newer/new actress, perhaps pulling from Tyler Perry's group?

Dr. Paula von Gunther: Her original story had Nazis, but was basically the same. She then stuck around as Wonder Woman's resident wacky mad scientist. I think you can basically cast whoever here, maybe even unknowns.

Veronica Cale: She was created as a Lex Luthor equivalent but hasn't done much. She should look somewhat high-class and arch, and get plenty of good lines when she's on scene.

Note: roughly 90% of the plot and background was taken directly from the comics or proposed for inclusion in the comics. I also have ideas for a Justice League movie that has even less chance of getting made.
So, how bad is it? :v

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#1162 Post by Oxymoron »

7 out of 10, would watch at a movie night.

Can't be worse than Superman Returns, anyway :v
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#1163 Post by evilsoup »

seems about as good as a wonder woman film could be
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#1164 Post by Bakustra »

Oxymoron wrote:7 out of 10, would watch at a movie night.
Okay, so all I need is $500 million US, a crew experienced with practical effects and making the best use of special effects, and the ability to convince a cast to join up and a studio to distribute it. Who's with me? :v
Oxymoron wrote: Can't be worse than Superman Returns, anyway :v
Wonder Woman is much more Jesus than Superman, so I guess my directing would largely consist of telling the actress to hold out her arms and emote like she's Willem Defoe and this is the Last Temptation. :v
evilsoup wrote:seems about as good as a wonder woman film could be
superhero comics are inherently dumb, so you might as well try to make them a fun dumb.

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#1165 Post by evilsoup »

well look if it was up to me I'd be basing the DC movies off of Batman: the Brave and the Bold, with KING SUPERMAN etc.
also gurren lantern (because powered by willpower sounds suspiciously like fighting spirit to me, the little blue dudes can run things with the power of rock etc.)
I'm just not really sure how wonder woman would fit into this
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#1166 Post by Bakustra »

evilsoup wrote:well look if it was up to me I'd be basing the DC movies off of Batman: the Brave and the Bold, with KING SUPERMAN etc.
also gurren lantern (because powered by willpower sounds suspiciously like fighting spirit to me, the little blue dudes can run things with the power of rock etc.)
I'm just not really sure how wonder woman would fit into this
you really have to make shit up with wonder woman, because almost all of her stuff since the 1940s has been pure comics stuff where it's all about reenacting greek mythology or doing emma peel cosplay or whatever

and, look, if i did dc movies, aquaman would be two-thirds john dimaggio and one-third kate beaton, and there would be references to "the mystery of the rainbow batman!" and superman would spend half the movie fucking with people. "mmm, this is delicious kryptonite!"

also, some sort of film adaptation of jack kirby's new gods or etrigan the demon with the original dialogue:

"I like you, Glorious Godfrey! You're a shallow, precious child-- the Revelationist! Happy with the sweeping sound of words! But I am the Revelation! The Tiger-Force at the core of all things! When you cry out in your dreams-- it is Darkseid that you see!"

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#1167 Post by evilsoup »

you have a beautiful mind baks
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#1168 Post by Dooey Jo »

if a game cannot be art but a toilet can be art

what if you put a game in a toilet ???
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#1169 Post by Dooey Jo »

so apparently somethingawful has its own new testingstan called "somethingsensitive", where people can go and complain about board culture and shitposts and fill literally every single thread with racism and terrible human beings :wtc:
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#1170 Post by Bakustra »

Dooey Jo wrote:so apparently somethingawful has its own new testingstan called "somethingsensitive", where people can go and complain about board culture and shitposts and fill literally every single thread with racism and terrible human beings :wtc:
also literally every single smiley consists of a smug republican, and when a guy got demodded for telling someone dying of heroin abuse not to go into rehab and instead to try lsd, he ran over there to complain

it was really great when one of 'em tried to get fyad in on it and they spent the rest of thread owning him though.

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#1171 Post by Darksi4190 »

So tomorrow i'm going to be driving around downtown Detroit taking pictures of old buildings for my Humanities class.

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#1172 Post by Oxymoron »

[start ranting about people with no reading comprehension and zero attention span]
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#1173 Post by RogueIce »

Bakustra wrote:it was really great when one of 'em tried to get fyad in on it and they spent the rest of thread owning him though.
So I know nothing of Internet politics. What is "fyad" and why would they care?

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Darksi4190 wrote:So tomorrow i'm going to be driving around downtown Detroit taking pictures of old buildings for my Humanities class.
Good luck with that. Try not to get shot.
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#1175 Post by adr »

ahoy ye landlubbers

just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip

that started from this clayton port aboard this tiny ship

the mate had a righteous riker beard, the skipper brave and sure

we passengers set sail that eve for a two hour tour

a two hour tour



but it was kinda cold and hella rainy so we couldn't even see much and then the sun went down and we couldn't see anything

but there were a lot of rich people houses! and a few for sale! or should i say.... for sail?????

anywho turned out not to be a good day nor time for a boat tour. at least it was free lol


and seriously the first mate was an incredibly beautiful man with a masterfully sculpted nautical beard
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