Lament 3: Cry Hard With A Vengeance

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#1301 Post by evilsoup »

People ask Europeans why they have so many difficulties building the United States of Europe.
now that's an interesting Freudian penis
do you not consider yourself a European or..? :sun:
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#1302 Post by Losonti Tokash »

it's me

i am oxymoron

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#1303 Post by Oxymoron »

evilsoup wrote:
People ask Europeans why they have so many difficulties building the United States of Europe.
now that's an interesting Freudian penis
do you not consider yourself a European or..? :sun:
No, I just don't consider myself as a person. :v
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#1304 Post by RyanThunder »

Losonti Tokash wrote:it's only not thought provoking because you refuse to think or consider anything outside of your incredibly narrow experience
I'll take that as a tacit acknowledgement that you do not, in fact, believe that it should be taught in schools because it is not, in fact, normal/proper/etc. English. :smug:

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#1305 Post by Infinity Biscuit »

Hey Ryan why don't you speak normal English instead of your degenerate North American "dialect"?
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#1306 Post by joviwan »

Which north american dialect? Northwestern? South eastern? North eastern? The "accentless" Southern Californian?

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#1307 Post by RyanThunder »

Infinity Biscuit wrote:Hey Ryan why don't you speak normal English instead of your degenerate North American "dialect"?
I speak what's been taught to me in school.

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#1308 Post by Infinity Biscuit »

I'm willing to bet that most of what you speak is in fact what your family and youth peer group spoke.

And would AAVE become "normal" English for you if it were taught in a school?
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#1309 Post by RyanThunder »

I suppose so.
Infinity Biscuit wrote:I'm willing to bet that most of what you speak is in fact what your family and youth peer group spoke.
Sure, but I don't entertain any notions that deviations from what I'd write in an essay are in any way 'proper' English, and I certainly don't feel a bizarre need to make people feel 'uncomfortable' for not understanding it.

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#1310 Post by RogueIce »

Infinity Biscuit wrote:degenerate North American "dialect"
What're you talking aboot, eh?

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#1311 Post by timmy »

People stop

The evolution of a launguage is not so much like a river that twists and winds its way with tributaries as a burst dam that spills out across the countryside like the flooded Platte River.
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#1312 Post by Infinity Biscuit »

In that it primarily bothers white people? :L
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#1313 Post by Questor »

timmy wrote:The evolution of a launguage is not so much like a river that twists and winds its way with tributaries as a burst dam that spills out across the countryside like the flooded Platte River.
Huh. I think I see where you're going here, but could you elaborate a bit? I think I'm getting hung up in the suddenness implied by the simile, as I've never considered language evolution a sudden process.

Also - on the venting topic: My left index finger feels really weird, not pain weird so much, but almost hypersensitive, like I can feel each muscle and the movement therein. It's really weird, and it's bugging me. If you've ever rubbed washed your hands while one hand is numb, that kind of "one-sided" movement/pressure is almost what it feels like.

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#1314 Post by thejester »

Infinity Biscuit wrote:In that it primarily bothers white people? :L
Given that the quote that caused Saxonite to lose his shit was from a black woman saying 'wow glad I can speak comprehensible English because it means I'm functionally literate', apparently not.

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#1315 Post by timmy »

Questor wrote:Huh. I think I see where you're going here, but could you elaborate a bit? I think I'm getting hung up in the suddenness implied by the simile, as I've never considered language evolution a sudden process.
Yeah, the dam bursting metaphor isn't great because it's not about speed, but spread. You know what, a metropolitan rail system would make a better comparison; it all starts in the same central station but ends up in different locales. Branch lines spread it even further. Intercity rail links refer to the dilution, assimilation, absorbtion of dialects.

Anyone interested in a popular and easy read on the topic of the english language would do well to get hold of Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue.
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#1316 Post by Questor »

timmy wrote:Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue.
THANK YOU! I read that from the library a couple years ago and have been trying to remember the title.

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#1317 Post by timmy »

You're welcome!
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#1318 Post by Crazedwraith »

So my mum mentioned now is a good time to try the driving thing again and that's a big panic for me. Got to the theory test again, (which i guess shouldn't be a big deal) after it run out.

but its got to stage where i've cocked up the practical test so many times it doesn't feel actual possible to pass at all.
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#1319 Post by Oxymoron »

I failed the practical test 5 times. Passed it on the 6th try.

I seriously doubt it to be impossible for you to pass it, unless you suffer from a disability I am not aware of.
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#1320 Post by Aaron »

Have you tried taking it at a rural branch of whatever you call the DMV?

That's what I did.

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#1321 Post by adr »

"he claims to speak English, but he is Australian"

-- tour de france commentator phil liggett (an Englishman)

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#1322 Post by Crazedwraith »

oxy, yeah its not literally impossible for me to pass. If I could just go an hour without fucking up and being in the wrong lane or something.

Already in a pretty rural area, Aaron but the test centre is in the middle of town. Not sure if there are any in even more remote areas but if there are the goverment probably shut them down already, lol. Thanks for advice.
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#1323 Post by Agent Bert Macklin »

I really hate it when horrible photographers are making money. I know someone who is defending his horrendously underexposed photos by saying stuff like 'I didn't have the flash, " I didn't have time to use the camera's meter because I was working." If you've been shooting for a year, it should be natural for you to get a correct exposure. The problem is that people like his photos, therefore preventing any critique. He's a hipster with a DSLR.

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#1324 Post by Manus Dei »

timmy wrote:
Questor wrote:Huh. I think I see where you're going here, but could you elaborate a bit? I think I'm getting hung up in the suddenness implied by the simile, as I've never considered language evolution a sudden process.
Yeah, the dam bursting metaphor isn't great because it's not about speed, but spread. You know what, a metropolitan rail system would make a better comparison; it all starts in the same central station but ends up in different locales. Branch lines spread it even further. Intercity rail links refer to the dilution, assimilation, absorbtion of dialects.
like an ejaculate of words spurting forth from the cock of language to stain the sheets of human society
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#1325 Post by timmy »

Yes, just like that.
Negative Knub wrote:End of photography rant.
I feel this way about the trend in the last few years since decent DSLRs became more affordable(or at least, desirable enough to justify spending more than you did on your first car) where people buy one, play with it for a bit, then start a facebook page called (Your Name Here) Photography or somesuch. Everybody and their dog.
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