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Stofsk wrote:i don't know how this became complicated

dragons = a giant flying lizard that breathes fire and occasionally talks sass to heroes

but nonono you gotta have ones that breath acid, ones that breathe poison, ones that breathe lightning (wtf), they all gotta cast spells and can shapeshift into humans etc etc

although i forgive monkey for having the dragon there shapeshift into trippitaka's horsie

Aaron wrote:Were did thr other two show up? I only know Smaug.

starku wrote: seriously aaron in dnd there are dragons that breathe lightning bolts

starku wrote:the thing about resists is actually interesting from a game design anthropological perspective

because fire is the traditional fantasy magic staple from fiction

which means it's the first resist you get

which means nothing dangerous can use it

which means you need ot invent 'poison' which drains hitpoints or 'ice' that is exactly like fire or 'lightning' or whatever


ps the whole idea of resistance is stupid and should be abstracted the way it is in robot games

starku wrote:also

ATTENTION INTERLOPER

hey aaron did you ever play starcontrol 2

starku wrote:some nurds used the source to make a version good for modern machiens called 'ur quan masters'

however they were too fat to put in proper 360 degree rotation

but it has the voices from 3d0 which is a bit of a laugh

ps sc2 plot = better than mass effect

starku wrote:an bakustra there is a thought right

that maybe damage types in fantasy shouldn't be differnt colours of the same projectile

ie ice doesn't fuckin explode, it burns on contact
or burning swords not actually getting +2 damage
or poison needing a biological basis

i actually think that old master of magic game did it a cool way, where things like 'chaos' where about pew pews but 'nature' was about indirect debuffs and shit

and 'corruption' just destroying a unit's weapns or ammunition with age is a really evocative fantasy image

and better than 'ice gives -10% movement for 1 turn'

starku wrote:well in some games it's totally fine that it's paper-scissors-stone with resists and damage types

but it's not very 'fantasy'

ps did you know uqm guys refuse to make mobile version for no reason :V

adr wrote:i'm somewhat amused that i've never played d&d but i still know all the shit you're talking about because the final fantasy games copied so much from it

B-A-K-U-S-T-R-A wrote:

adr wrote:i'm somewhat amused that i've never played d&d but i still know all the shit you're talking about because the final fantasy games copied so much from it

ff1 has all the funky names (like KARY) because every monster except GARLAND, CHAOS, ASTOS, and WarMECH came straight out of the D&D monster manual, and TSR was incredibly lawsuit-happy

but the history of d&d in japan is downright tragicomic.

starku wrote:remember how dnd had to invent their amazingly stupid planar structure (which the teo nerds are discussing lol) because you couldn't have 'devils' in the game because uh witches and shit

starku wrote:it's hilarious right

because in a really 80s way

so much of dnd is driven by 'decision to change names to avoid lawsuits/negative publicity' and then 'fat people at conventions write fanfic about the plane of pure shopping' and then 'obsess over thermodynamics of the murderworld'

so much of pre-forum shit is driven by the exact mechanics we see in forums today

eveyrthing from wierd tales to fucking dnd man

Planes:

Q has currently placed a barrier between Terra and the rest of the planes, except demi-planes and the Ethereal plane surrounding Earth. The barrier is impermeable to creatures attempting to enter from outside Earth, but can be broken from the inside (from Earth). Breaking the barrier requires a DC35 Spellcraft check (this RAR does not adhere directly to D&D rules, the number is just to give you an idea of the difficulty). The barrier once broken in a place is permeable in that area to other planes. Once the barrier is broken once breaking it in a new spot reduces the check by DC5 each time. Once the barrier has been broken in three places it shatters and cannot be repaired. From that point on Earth is as accessible by planar travelers as any other Material plane.

Is that what you were looking for, Sol?

Also, everyone's missing the little line on the SRD that says "Can also cast cleric spells as arcane spells." That applies to all metallics and most chromatics, I believe.

Simon: The meaning behind that rather obtuse "don't break reality" law was casualty and violation of conservation of energy. A great communicator in writing I am not.

Ahriman:

The Orbs of Dragonkind... hmm... Q smirks at you and says nothing.

You may ask Q to take a non-metallic/chromatic form, though you'll probably drop an age category. No epic dragons. You can trade hit dice for levels in a class, provided you meet that classes requirements, and again you'll have to get it by Q.

Starglider: Half-celestial approved. Take a drop in a single age category.

And I'm tempted to say "Wong is a Great Wyrm Force Dragon" just for kicks.

Aaron wrote:One of the more hilarious things about being i nthe Mess over there is that because no one else really knows anything about the military and the members generally back each other is that you could pretty much say whatever the hell you wanted, as long as it wasn't "yeah we secretly landed dudes on the moon in '84"