I mean that people who act like that and are under about 25 are generally incorrigible because they are immature for their age to be making rape jokes in public.
evilsoup wrote:I thought that one got shut down? The guy running it got exposed and lost his job or something?
anyway mang every few months we get a judge over here saying something like 'that twelve year old was totally asking for it' and giving the perp a reduced sentence, so saying that rape culture doesn't exist is just
Wouldn't that be statutory anyway? Which can be its own set of issues but not when it comes to twelve years olds. That's just...
Oxymoron wrote:
The defining "trait" of the main female character is to have been raped for years by her father, imprisoned in the family home while never being allowed to go out.
I actually kind of agree with a guy on SB who suggested a better alternative term to "rape culture" would be "rape apologism."
The problem with "rape culture" is you basically have to explain to people that it isn't crazy; that it doesn't actually mean we have a culture that thinks rape is good, it means we have a culture that makes excuses for rapists and shames the victims. "Rape apologism" better communicates what's actually happening to the average person. Edit: and yes, it's deliberately using the common connotations of "apologist" that have crept into common perception of the term, rather than the literal definition.
I'm also not a huge fan of the term "privilidge" either because it has the same problem; it intuitively gives people the wrong idea of what you're saying and you have to explain to them that no, it doesn't mean you think all white people automatically have it better than all black people (or something similarly stupid). That's bad rhetoric.
I'm also not a big fan of the term "patriarchy" either, especially when it's used as a generic term for male dominance instead of to refer specifically to the kind of society in which the gerontocratic patrilineal family is a powerful social institution.
This concludes my venting on how I don't actually like a lot of common feminist/SJ terminology.
Edit: I rather have the impression this is a legacy of the fact this terminology comes from the 60s/70s, when movements like feminism were more marginal and hence more radical. As they achieved success and moved toward the mainstream they became "tamed by office", more willing to make compromises with social reality and less utopian and apocalyptic in thinking - but the terminology of the earlier phase was retained even as the movement became less insurgent in character. So you have people trying to put together a big tent coalition that can work within and peaceably reform society, using terminology invented by people who were a small marginal minority and thought of society as utterly corrupt and were half-convinced it was irredeemable.
Edit2: the second vs. third wave feminism split seems to me like basically a manifestation of this: the hard-line old guard vs. the more pragmatic moderates who are more willing to accomodate human nature and social reality (e.g. see: attitudes about pornography and general "sex positivity").
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actually I was remembering the case wrong
it was a prosecutor for the case who called the thirteen-year-old victim 'predatory' and 'sexually experienced' and the perpetrator got an eight-month suspended sentence for fucking a thirteen-year-old.
but don't worry, the sentence was later upped to a year... but still a suspended sentence.
but no, rape culture is definitely a myth though up by feminazis trying to steal some nutsacks
My best friend died of cancer a while ago and now another friend of mine is getting some growths that may or may not be tumors and I'm really getting scared
He's going in for surgery in a week to find out and uggh I guess all I can do is hope