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Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:21 pm
by adr
imo they both had pretty decent style in there. but i don't like the negative personal crap anyway. there's more than enough of that garbage in the fucking ads if that's what you're looking for

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:05 pm
by Count Chocula
Mitt beat up the President like he was Vernon Dursley and Obama was Harry Potter. It was pretty clear Romney was better prepared. Maybe Denver's thin air threw the Prez off his game, or his strategy to set the bar low for the first debate worked exactly as intended.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:09 am
by Gands
My favourite part of that thread was Nitram's "at least he has a good home life" comment.

That was just weird.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:18 am
by adr
so i'm watching that "person of interest" show on cbs right now

they did a credit check on a missing person and found an open bank accout

they say "so either she's communicating from beyond the grave" -- "or she's still alive"


but i'm like "or someone stole her identity"

that kinds of thing happens

blargh

oh well

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:44 am
by Straha
Do I want to get into an Evopsych throwdown? I think I do.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:20 am
by adr
so i was just thinking i could start promoting the idea of democracy to the masses

but then i realized i could PATENT my ideas for democracy1!!!!!!!!!

good idea or BEST IDEA?

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:28 am
by Djinnkitty83
adr wrote:so i was just thinking i could start promoting the idea of democracy to the masses

but then i realized i could PATENT my ideas for democracy1!!!!!!!!!

good idea or BEST IDEA?
Best idea, we want to make it as difficult as possible for people to use these ideas in public.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:39 am
by adr
no no i'm getting defensive patents to protect my personal profits the public from a private company deciding to litigate over the idea

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:28 am
by Jung
Straha wrote:Do I want to get into an Evopsych throwdown? I think I do.
link plz?

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:31 am
by Straha

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:23 am
by Jung
Thnx

Though I see two obvious possible ways to falsify an evopsych hypothesis

1) Show that something hypothesized to be a behavior arising from biology appears to be culture-specific

2) Show that a predicted biological feature does not exist (e.g. if men are more sexually jealous than women because of different sexual selection dynamics there should be differences in their genes and brains that correspond to this, if they do not exist the hypothesis is falsified)

Granted I imagine the latter approach would often require much more advanced scientific understanding than we presently have.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:37 am
by Djinnkitty83
http://testingstan.arsdnet.net/forum/me ... file&u=138

Who are you? Who the hell are you?! I saw you lurking, don't try and hide it!

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:32 am
by Straha
The Grand Galactic Inquisitor:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6y2gdLDzjt0

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:44 am
by Flagg
IGNORE ME!

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:45 am
by evilsoup
ok

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:19 am
by Straha
Jung wrote:
Thnx

Though I see two obvious possible ways to falsify an evopsych hypothesis

1) Show that something hypothesized to be a behavior arising from biology appears to be culture-specific
If that would do it then history would seem to definitively disprove Evopsych from the start.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:22 am
by Flagg
Gands wrote:My favourite part of that thread was Nitram's "at least he has a good home life" comment.

That was just weird.
That's why I said what he said. It's like he needed to find anything to cling to to not feel bad. It's hilarious.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:15 pm
by Darth Tedious
I love how the 'hard sci-fi' thread has gone further into comic book territory than most versus debates.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:17 pm
by adr
omg omg hard sci fi threads are the best

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:35 pm
by Darth Tedious
Yep, it's total common sense to have like, billions of planet-killing weapons lying around to ensure MAD within your own galaxy. Even though the things are apparently undetectable (which makes them kinda useless for MAD, if your enemy can't launch a counterattack, destruction isn't mutual).
I don't see why a civ with FTL would take them as a credible threat anyway.
"Lolwut, agree to neutrality or you'll launch an attack that won't hit my homeworld for 20,000 years? I'm sure my people can find a way to stop it with that much time to prepare..."

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:38 pm
by adr
of course the star wars wankers don't waste much time getting in there. meh this is too boring. i'd totally wank furiously too if i was in that thread but again it just isn't fun to watch other ppl doing it. especially so poorly. christ.


and omg a space fighters thread!!!!!!! but meh more same old same old

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:46 pm
by Darth Tedious
I just can't believe how badly the HSF is being wanked out.
I guess the point was "how powerful could one possibly be", though, so it should be expected that it would go to extremes.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:02 pm
by adr
Darth Tedious wrote:Yep, it's total common sense to have like, billions of planet-killing weapons lying around to ensure MAD within your own galaxy.
What I'd do is repurpose something else to do the fighting and do like defense in depth. Consider the other side of the light speed coin... suppose the evil ftl empire attacks the stl wankciv and actually manages to conquer a part of it. That part can't surrender the whole collective, and news of their defeat is going to take a long time to spread.

Thus the ftl evil empire is going to have to fight for each and every inch they want almost as a physical necessity - each new conquest doesn't know what they're up against, so they might not be inclined to roll over. When you move on to a new star, you are starting the fight all over again.


Is that worth it to them? (I guess it depends on what they want but anything could be made a giant hassle every step of the way.)



And if the STL folks decide to be the aggressors, the FTL probably have their own advantage. Attacking is going to take coordination, and the ftl could fuck that up by staying ahead of the plan (literally!) and fucking it up. Might not work - a wankciv would simply smother the ftl one with tons of time and numbers - but eh.

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:04 pm
by adr
LOL i just said "they could fuck it up by fucking it up"

truly this is the creation of a great mind

NONE OF YOU CAN PERCEIVE MY BRILLIANCE

Re: The Return of Testing Chat Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:11 pm
by Darth Tedious
That was pretty great.