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Infinity Biscuit wrote:That's actually another nice way to come at it. Look at how, if you actually dig deep, empowered women who do great things or fight against oppression have been around as long as said oppression existed, but they're systematically covered up, often inadvertently due to people's misogynistic blind spots. Absence of evidence of women's actions has been shown to not be evidence for their lack of existence but for the patriarchy being even shittier

then apply it to language

F.J. Prefect, Esq wrote:I'm not like a linguist or anything, but a friend of mine will sometimes say 'if L'Académie française is at odds with French speakers, L'Académie française is wrong'.

Civil War Man wrote:I actually ran into something like this recently. I caught Hell's Angels (the old Howard Hughes WWI epic) on Netflix, and found it was actually more mature than I was expecting for a movie made in 1930. Then, once I turned over that rock, I started reading up on pre-code Hollywood and found that it was actually relatively progressive on topics like race, gender, and sexuality before the MPPC and the Legion of Decency poisoned the well. Which was actually fairly surprising, since for all the "Liberal Hollywood" talk, I've always viewed Hollywood as being several years behind the general population in terms of progressiveness.

Jung wrote:I've heard a couple of people suggest that were on our way to something equivalent to what happened in the 1960s in the 20s, and the Depression and WWII delayed it for a couple of decades.

Bakustra wrote:language developed when i made out with the unliving deitylet Hand-Antelope-Baobab at the beginning of time and thought about Noam Chomsky

now you know the rest of the story

Big Orangutan wrote:OK, I think the more propagandist, toned down, and simplified Western mass media of the 1930s/1940s/1950s did a lot to warp and damage the perceptions of modern people's take on history and politics. Mass media is very powerful and Hollywood movies from the 1930s/1940s/1950s are the most accessible images of that mid 20th century era, greatly warping our perceptions of it.

Especially when WWII was turned into a gigantic PR coup through the Disnified media of that era for America and Britain, two not especially nice nation states that were fighting the unambiguously brutal Nazi German regime that made them look like boy scouts even before the media manipulation (despite Herr Thanas going on and on and on about the misdeeds of America and Britain being fucking tedious three years ago).

evilsoup wrote:why are you being so mean

Losonti Tokash wrote:i have no idea what's going on

Infinity Biscuit wrote:Every night I look forward to Bad Machinery updating

and every friday and saturday night I forget that Bad Machinery only updates 5 days a week until I load the page

Jung wrote:To the extent that people lower on the totem pole buy into this and seek to partake of the "refined" culture of those above them that would be one mechanism for language to tend to follow the forms of the more priviliged. Another one is that social interaction tends to happen on the terms of the priviliged so it's more important for the non-priviliged to be able to talk to them in their own terms than visa versa.

Bounty wrote:I hope you mean the Director's Edition and not the longer original edit. Small East-Europeans countries have come and gone while the original was playing.