Testing Chat Thread

[Agent Bert Macklin]

What are you talking about?

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Marxism.html

[evilsoup]

that's pretty loltastic
I stopped reading at 'some poor people become rich, therefore social class doesn't exist'.

Doesn't he also have one where he says the Federation=communism and is therefore EVIL?

[RyanThunder]

I can't believe I took that seriously when I was younger.

[Aaron]

Really, the Federation seems to offer a superior quality of life and more stability then SW.

I realize he wanted to make the Empire look favourable but still.

[Zod]

I can't believe I took that seriously when I was younger.

teenagers are expected to be dumb.

[Agent Bert Macklin]

Do any of you actually think Wong maintains the same views 12 years later?

[evilsoup]

That's a fair point, wasn't he saying something about community-based morality recently?

[RyanThunder]

Do any of you actually think Wong maintains the same views 12 years later?

It's possible, but nah, not really.

[Aaron]

Do any of you actually think Wong maintains the same views 12 years later?

I don't even care, his veiws have shaped the mobs attitude on SDN. Some of that is still present. Go try and portray ST in a positive light, fucks like batman will rain on your parade instantly.

[adr]

Doesn't he also have one where he says the Federation=communism and is therefore EVIL?

yea
http://stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/ ... rxism.html

if you read these keep this in mind: it isn't actually what marx was saying. check out the original material instead if you're interested http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/

[evilsoup]

'elimination of religion'
wait
the Federation go out of their way to accommodate peoples' beliefs & customs, almost to a fault
man, just skimming that, he's clearly not serious about this stuff

[RyanThunder]

Well IIRC some of it was meant to be from the perspective of some Empire officer grasping at anything he could think of under threat of execution most likely.

Maybe that was one instance of that.

[Dooey Jo]

ten commandments of communism

it would be awesome if the ten commandments of the bible had the disclaimer: "these proposals will be a pretty good idea for most people under current circumstances"

[RyanThunder]

A lot of the OT stuff literally only applies to Jews apparently.

[adr]

it would be awesome if the ten commandments of the bible had the disclaimer: "these proposals will be a pretty good idea for most people under current circumstances"

worse than that (as i'm sure you know but for our other readers), the previous paragraphs calls them explicitly first steps. it is a transition process. the idea is to just break the established power structure so something new can happen

you might know the phrase from the american revolution "don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes".

i always thought that was just an innovative military tactic used to start things off. but now i know that was actually one of the ten commandments of american republicanism


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you might be wondering why i went back to look at this. the reason is when i first read it, i believed it. after reading the sdn site i was like "i can't consider myself a communist. there's been some good ideas out of the socialists today but this original marx shit is crazy. there's no point reading any of it"

and that was a mistake. i don't understand how 2004 me could have been such a fool

[evilsoup]

How old were you..?

[Darth Tedious]

A lot of the OT stuff literally only applies to Jews apparently.

To an extent, but everything Yoda teaches Luke on Dagobah is just as relevant to Christians.

[adr]

ummmm i was born in late 1986 so pretty soon i'll be 2012-1986 = 14 + 12 = 26

so close enough to 26. i started doing web forums in my university year, late 2004, as that was the first time i had the internet on my personal computer. that would maek me about 17 at the time, going on 18

[adr]

you know its funny how the years fly by now

that dumb shit feels like it wasn't very long ago at all

but it's actually been like a third of my life in between

[evilsoup]

So that would have made you 18-19?
Hahahahaha oh wow
I though it was going to be like 14-15, that would have explained it, but
hahahaha

[Darth Tedious]

Heh.

For some reason I'd always assumed you were older than me.

[Jung]

So that would have made you 18-19?
Hahahahaha oh wow
I though it was going to be like 14-15, that would have explained it, but
hahahaha

I think I still had some pretty terrible opinions at that age

I think I was still in my fairly hard right winger phase back then.

[evilsoup]

there's nothing sadder than a teenage right-winger
I mean at least with old people, their life is basically over & I can understand wanting to shit miserableness over everyone else out of spite

but you're not a dickhead now, which is what really matters

[Jung]

there's nothing sadder than a teenage right-winger
I mean at least with old people, their life is basically over & I can understand wanting to shit miserableness over everyone else out of spite

I think it was teenage rebellion actually.

When I say that bear in mind I grew up in Berkeley California which is generally a fairly leftist place.

So saying stuff HPCAites might nod along with was a effective way to get the kind of reactions from people that makes a dumbass teenager think he's some sort of badass nonconformist. "Everybody thinks I'm dumb and/or an asshole, this must mean I'm sticking it to the Man!"

[evilsoup]

haha ok, that's fine then.