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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:59 am
by Dooey Jo
especially people who break traffic laws

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:58 am
by Flagg
I just flat out called AD a sociopath. Internet psychology FTW!

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:00 pm
by thejester
I've seen a great white breech when taking a bait before. You just...you wouldn't know about it. You'd be fucking dead.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:46 pm
by Aaron
Knubfuck wrote:People like Romulan Republic are deluding themselves when they say the following: "Nobody deserves to die, let alone die such a horrific death, just because they made a mistake or did something illegal. "

In the case with the South African, I can agree. But let's take a look at one of the most glorious deaths of last year by an act of stupidity: Ryan Dunn. Ryan Dunn just wanted to have fun. So, he drank and drive and met his demise. And given his age and his prevalence of partying, it is not out of line to suggest that he had done it in the past. He also had a record of speeding. His death benefited every person who lived in the area where he would stay and congregate: they are safer. So, yes, some people deserve to die.
See this is why people think your an idiot. He may have deserved to die because he was a dangerous idiot but he had a family, friends, people who cared for him. That leaves a void, it damages them. Thats why his death would be a tragedy.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:58 pm
by Dooey Jo
It is sad that these fishermen have to poach to make ends meet, but god damn it illegal fishing is one of the reasons that the oceans world wide are in collapse...
man if they'd just stop poaching and start starving instead the world would be saved stupid africans

or maybe your own country drags millions of tons of fish out of the sea only to either throw them back dead or bury them in a landfill

could be a flaw in the system going on here rather than single individuals doing what they can within it deserving to be eaten

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:25 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
Aaron wrote:See this is why people think your an idiot. He may have deserved to die because he was a dangerous idiot but he had a family, friends, people who cared for him. That leaves a void, it damages them. Thats why his death would be a tragedy.
His scum friends likely enabled his behavior. Parents too, likely. The fact is that Ryan Dunn was NOT a good person, no matter what his parents and friends in denial claim. So, I couldn't care less about their grief. I couldn't hep but laugh at the bubbling Bam Margera who was SHOCKED that his alchy friend died from morbid stupidity and irresponsibility. Keep in mind that he also murdered the passenger. So, yes, I do not care about their grief.

PS. If my brother died from drunk driving, I'd mourn very little. I'd own up to the fact that he deserved it. Hell, he skirted a DUI a few month ago, while over the limit, and I wanted to see him in prison.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:34 pm
by Flagg
Ryan Dunn took someone with him, that's what makes him a reprehensible piece of shit. If he had only taken his overpriced car to the grave with him it would be a tragedy, although mitigated by his stupidity and open for humor.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:43 pm
by Zod
Dooey Jo wrote:especially people who break traffic laws
I'm starting to lose count of the number of times some idiot tried running me over while I was out walking. So fuck those guys.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:55 pm
by Aaron
So whenever the TEO idiots go "religion accomplishes nothing, it's evil" I'm reminded of detroitblog and stories like this:

http://metrotimes.com/culture/soul-kitchen-1.1255797

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:37 pm
by Metatwaddle
it's funny because this sort of thing happens in every major city in the us -- maybe not on the same scale, but something like it

i have a sdn-ish atheist acquaintance who likes to say "well if we had a robust social safety net and a secular scandinavia-esque government then religious charity wouldn't be necessary"

and i guess he's expecting that everyone becoming atheists would lead to a more leftish country with a better safety net, but there are too many 20-something atheist lolbertarians for me to believe that

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:42 pm
by adr-admin
in my fanfiction, the welfare state tries to do good and for most people do, but they have a kind of one-size-fits-all policy and can be impersonal sometimes

religious charities fill in the gaps on the local scale



now the reason i did this is because i specifically wanted religious charities

but i think it's reasonably realistic

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:44 pm
by Dooey Jo
we're also currently in the process of dismantling our social safety nets so there's that

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:45 pm
by weemadando
Australia has a pretty excellent social security system, healthcare etc and we still have a real need for various religious and secular charities to assist people who a) don't immediately qualify for assistance or (more often) b) have little or no money management skills, and sometimes mental health, addiction or abuse issues to boot and blow all their money immediately on receiving it and then have to rely on the assistance from these charitable groups to make it through.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:46 pm
by Sandman
I also know equally as many Christian socialists. In fact, it's a pretty popular position to adopt socialism within a Judeo-Christian framework outside of the United States since pretty much all of the major teachings worth listening to in that system advocate something similar to socialism.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:49 pm
by adr-admin
Jesus rox.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:50 pm
by Flagg
Man I used to work at a soup kitchen and they were so intent on shoving their religious bullcrap down my throat I pretty much had to quit.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:53 pm
by Zod
that's the crappy thing about a lot of charities in the US

if you ever have to use them? more than likely they will proselytize to you

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:10 pm
by Civil War Man
Sandman wrote:I also know equally as many Christian socialists. In fact, it's a pretty popular position to adopt socialism within a Judeo-Christian framework outside of the United States since pretty much all of the major teachings worth listening to in that system advocate something similar to socialism.
Mark 12:14-17 wrote:And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.

And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:35 pm
by Flagg
Zod wrote:that's the crappy thing about a lot of charities in the US

if you ever have to use them? more than likely they will proselytize to you

Man when I was volunteering half the "pious" bastards were badmouthing the homeless they were feeding behind their backs and talking about how much good it did them at their church to be doing the work.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:39 pm
by adr-admin
i haet it when ppl use names esp on the internet when not in third person

"Weemadando, that entirely misses the point"

for instance. simon_jester does it a lot

it pisses me off

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:42 pm
by Zod
adr wrote:i haet it when ppl use names esp on the internet when not in third person

"Weemadando, that entirely misses the point"

for instance. simon_jester does it a lot

it pisses me off
how about when people drop someone's real name?

<so and so> (that's Broomstick, by the way, because we're on a first name basis now since we've traded a few PMs, but just in case you're not tight enough to know that)

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:44 pm
by Stofsk
i drop adam's name all the time

usually to stick up for him though

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:46 pm
by Zod
Stofsk wrote:i drop adam's name all the time

usually to stick up for him though
i bet you don't sound incredibly smarmy about it

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:49 pm
by starku
adr wrote:i haet it when ppl use names esp on the internet when not in third person

"Weemadando, that entirely misses the point"

for instance. simon_jester does it a lot

it pisses me off
did you konw that this is a definite symptom 8-)

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:49 pm
by adr-admin
if it's third person that's not so bad since that way you know whom ur talking aboot

"there was this one time barry (that's what we call him on the hill) was giving me a tour of the national exobiology labs under nellis afb (what you might know as "area 51") and something really cool happened and i could tell you more but classified"


here if i said "he" or something you wouldn't kno wat i r talking about


but when you're replying to someone, it's obvious and you could just as well use "you" or leave the subject off entirely and let it be inferred


so whether you say "bhussein2008, what you don't get" or "barry, what you don't get", it's just unnecessary


it strikes me as trying to make a personal connection or something

but this is the internet :?

and it annoys me