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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:57 am
by xon
Questor wrote:As clear as mud?

I mean, I recognize the syntax, but almost every noun is some reference. Is this a quote from Darmok?
Where you see random capatalization, remove the spaces and then hit tvtropes with it and it should get you the right page(full of other self-referential jargon). It's basicly an infantile stupid form of literary analysis.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:03 pm
by Dooey Jo
you'll find pages of stuff explaining things in the terms of stuff on other pages

kinda like dictionaries explain words by pointing at other words in the dictionary

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:10 pm
by xon
Because I hate myself;
Questor wrote:
twee
for she's usually armed with an Armor-Piercing Slap, a Megaton Punch or a Hyperspace Mallet
Clingy Jealous Girl usually lavishes her attention upon a male schoolmate, but sometimes she can fixate on her older brother. While usually this is a purely filial, protective behavior, it can occasionally verge on Brother-Sister Incest. And the occasional Psycho Lesbian Clingy Jealous Girl has been spotted.
If she's a Yandere, she'll snap and try to Murder the Hypotenuse at least once. Especially "If I Can't Have You." If she's a Tsundere instead, her violence towards the male lead will be a Running Gag. If she's a Sugar And Ice Girl she'll be more prone to snide comments and verbal violence than open clinginess. Depending on how possessive she is, their "boyfriend's" friends will also be targeted.
In Fan Fiction, she is often what the Relationship Sue turns out to be in the end. Also, if a Mary Sue appears and snatches the love interest's attention away, the possible love rivals will become clingy jealous girls to make her look better than she really is.
Contrast her Spear Counterpart, Crazy Jealous Guy, who tends to be Played for Drama or even tragedy more often.
What the heck does any of that mean?
All I did was spot the random capitalization and remove spaces & dashes. I was tripped up by the chaining of two of the "terms" together for no fucking reason. I'm not willing to see how many others are just stupid terms lifted from that horrible tvtropes website. I wish it was just weeaboos as it would be easier to avoid.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:26 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
RogueIce wrote:
Knubble tov wrote:ARSE was always a laugh for me. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH A WOMAN! MY SELF ESTEEM! Bitches, I have a deformed hand, and am jobless, and am sickly, yet I asked out a MILF. PS I'm a virgin too. Holla!
Clearly it didn't go well if you're still a virgin. :smug:
:D

It didn't work out because she turned out to be a 31 year old mother of two who partied constantly, leaving her kids with her mother.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:51 pm
by Aaron
Sounds like you could have got fucked at least.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:41 pm
by adr-admin
in threads where engineers say something about engineering and you disagree, you'll get a one line dismissal

don't question the engineers you fucking retard they surely thought of that


but if a law judge says something about law judging and you disagree you're a hero of the federation

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:00 pm
by Zod
adr wrote:in threads where engineers say something about engineering and you disagree, you'll get a one line dismissal

don't question the engineers you fucking retard they surely thought of that


but if a law judge says something about law judging and you disagree you're a hero of the federation
if only judges weren't constantly overruled by higher courts all the time :v

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:01 pm
by Aaron
And engineers work is checked by others all the time. Why?

Because they can fuck up.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:24 pm
by Civil War Man
adr wrote:in threads where engineers say something about engineering and you disagree, you'll get a one line dismissal

don't question the engineers you fucking retard they surely thought of that


but if a law judge says something about law judging and you disagree you're a hero of the federation
Are you implying that TEO does not have respect for people whose work can not be expressed in jiggatons and megawatts, sir? :v

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:28 pm
by adr-admin
i think it's more a general superiority thing actually

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:42 pm
by Dooey Jo
the analogy holds though, because when you're dismissed as a layperson in an engineering question it's because you lack the proof of education, but judges arguably go through even tougher education than engineers (unless they are elected as i hear you sometimes do in the us) soooo

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:52 pm
by adr-admin
elected judges still have to be lawyers (i think. i've never seen a judge in an election who wasn't at least anyway)

so they still educated and shit

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:18 pm
by Zod
adr wrote:elected judges still have to be lawyers (i think. i've never seen a judge in an election who wasn't at least anyway)

so they still educated and shit
i'm pretty sure the key difference is legal opinions are supposed to be easily accessible to the layperson

it's not of much use if the average person can't make sense out of it

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:38 pm
by Dooey Jo
legal opinions are often expressed over hundreds of paper pages, they have to weigh tons of evidence against a thousand laws and to figure whether to follow the letter of the law or what previous rulings say etc., etc. that the layperson usually has no hope of doing thoroughly

hell i was thinking this morning how it's practically impossible to be an informed citizen of a country, because the laws make up a ten kilogram tome of bullshit (at least here) that no one can possibly remember in its entirety

of course i don't know what this specifically is about, so don't take this as commentary on anything but the general case of court rulings

but i often see people deciding what's the correct ruling in "obvious" cases as presented in the press. like recently i heard "19-year old girl charged with rape of 13-year old boy after she reported being raped by him". popular verdict: "she is a bitch whore". because obviously 13-year old boys can't possibly rape someone older under any circumstances or something

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:55 pm
by Darth Fanboy
Zod wrote: it's not of much use if the average person can't make sense out of it
And if an average person can't make sense of it because they have their fingers in their ears yelling "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:13 pm
by adr-admin
say i've heard that in countries like france the law is a lot easier to understand because it's based on what napolean wrote rather than what a million judges decided in the past

t/f

?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:21 pm
by starku
Darth Fanboy wrote:
Zod wrote: it's not of much use if the average person can't make sense out of it
And if an average person can't make sense of it because they have their fingers in their ears yelling "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"?
i think you mean 'i saw law and order once i know how this works'

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:24 pm
by adr-admin
hey i took business law tests for a friend based on common sense and law and order

and i totally got a B average


obviously ti works for everything

ima take the bar just for lulz

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:25 pm
by Zod
starku wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:
Zod wrote: it's not of much use if the average person can't make sense out of it
And if an average person can't make sense of it because they have their fingers in their ears yelling "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"?
i think you mean 'i saw law and order once i know how this works'
matlock wouldn't lie about how the law works

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:40 pm
by Darth Fanboy
starku wrote: i think you mean 'i saw law and order once i know how this works'
Except i'm going by what the Judge in the case is saying.

SDN-tardz: "Hey what he did was legal"

ME: *post article directly referencing why the judge says it was not legal*

SDN-tardz: "But you forget, it was still legal."


oh and also the comedy of


SDN-tardz: "Fanboy why u think evil America should extradite"

Me: "I don't agree with that"

SDN-tardz: :hurfhurf: "BUT U DO BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT HOLLYWOOD NOT LET ME HAVE FREE MOVIE"

Me: :doh:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:57 pm
by Oxymoron
adr wrote:say i've heard that in countries like france the law is a lot easier to understand because it's based on what napolean wrote rather than what a million judges decided in the past

t/f

?
It may be easier to understand

But the whole legal system is unholy bloat with a number of laws counted in the dozen of thousands (I think there may be more than 100k of them, but don't trust my words), many of them redundant or obsolete. And the whole edifice is reminiscent of spaghetti programming. :psypop:

This is why I tend to argue in favor of a total recast of the French legal system - the problem being that it is impossible in practice for a number of reasons, and that I wouldn't trust our government(s) with such a power anyway (remaking the whole legal system from the ground up).

If only there was an option to "clean the code" like with programming... *sigh*

And anyway, it's a bigger priority these days to force the upgrade from the 5th to the 6th Republic (totally rewriting the constitution and adapting the Republic's institutions [*] to the new realities of the XXIst Century). Once this is done and only then will we have time to cut back the obsolete & redundant crap from our legal system.



[*] : almost all the people that are favorable to the idea of a 6th Republic tend to think that we should ditch the President and become a Parliamentary Republic instead (think Germany or Italy). I agree with them, and the current campaign for the 2012's Presidential elections only reinforce my opinion with each passing days : one man, even elected, cannot be trusted with such powers. What we have right now is an Elected Monarch.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:15 pm
by Dooey Jo
that's the problem with republics and why i laugh at our domestic republicans

yeah a monarchy is a pretty obsolete system, but a powerless ceremonial figurehead is way better than an elected king with actual powers. even powerless presidents can still call on their electorate to claim some sort of legitimate right to political influence a single person should not have

i'd say people should grow out of their stupid need for father figures

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:21 pm
by adr-admin
monarchy rox

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 pm
by Zod
Oxymoron wrote:
adr wrote:say i've heard that in countries like france the law is a lot easier to understand because it's based on what napolean wrote rather than what a million judges decided in the past

t/f

?
It may be easier to understand

But the whole legal system is unholy bloat with a number of laws counted in the dozen of thousands (I think there may be more than 100k of them, but don't trust my words), many of them redundant or obsolete. And the whole edifice is reminiscent of spaghetti programming. :psypop:

This is why I tend to argue in favor of a total recast of the French legal system - the problem being that it is impossible in practice for a number of reasons, and that I wouldn't trust our government(s) with such a power anyway (remaking the whole legal system from the ground up).

If only there was an option to "clean the code" like with programming... *sigh*

And anyway, it's a bigger priority these days to force the upgrade from the 5th to the 6th Republic (totally rewriting the constitution and adapting the Republic's institutions [*] to the new realities of the XXIst Century). Once this is done and only then will we have time to cut back the obsolete & redundant crap from our legal system.



[*] : almost all the people that are favorable to the idea of a 6th Republic tend to think that we should ditch the President and become a Parliamentary Republic instead (think Germany or Italy). I agree with them, and the current campaign for the 2012's Presidential elections only reinforce my opinion with each passing days : one man, even elected, cannot be trusted with such powers. What we have right now is an Elected Monarch.
part of the problem is that we've put the "founding fathers" up on such a high pedestal that they might as well be deities

and murricans don't like to question their gods

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:25 pm
by starku
the difference between a chair or facilitator or whatever and a big tough man who gets things done and cuts through red tape with his bold masculinity is pretty good shit

ps he's talking about france guys not america :zaku: