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Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:36 pm
by Crazedwraith
it helps that literally no one else would defend baltar. also you can't expect badger to do all the work without the help of a main character do you?

no one can get anything done without their name in the title sequence.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:28 am
by evilsoup
mang all this is reminding me of how good nBSG could have been

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:07 am
by uraniun235
Manus Dei wrote:
Gands wrote:Well, his grandfather was a lawyer, so that makes sense.
i am quite sure lawyering is not passed hereditarily
they apparently expected to pass on wisdom about not abusing your creations or something, sooooo
timmy wrote:True, but let's not forget what Riker had given up in order to pursue his career. There's always room for regret in a person's heart at life choices made and the doors that close the further along each branch of the path. Of course, canon crapped on that idea by allowing him to actually pick up his relationship with Deanna and have it both ways. Isn't that grand? It worked out for them in the end! Damn it.
Yeah, I think it was a mistake having them marry. Getting frisky and having a fling like in Insurrection, okay, I can totally see that happening; there's an episode of TNG that implies that, if they weren't already doing that now and again during the series run, Riker sure as hell was open to it.

You do make a good point, but at the same time I don't really feel like the TV series built up enough of a "gee I wish I'd been able to be with Troi forever" vibe (I mean if anything I got the impression that they were happy they'd dated but were also happy to see other people as well) to make that kind of "man I pissed away a life of love with Troi for maybe another ten years of service in Starfleet" angst really meaningful.


I think the best approach for that kind of story would have been to take... whatever the name of that DMZ Indian relocation episode was, excise the dumbass Traveler ending, and leave it at Wesley throwing away all of his previous ambitions for that one cause, that one moment. And the end of the episode would be him basically coming to grips with having effectively severed himself forever from the family he knew, not being able to just drop by and chill out if the Traveler feels like swinging by this quadrant again, and having to figure out what to do with his life now that he will never be in Starfleet like he'd hoped.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:16 am
by Flagg
evilsoup wrote:mang all this is reminding me of how good nBSG was
Fixed

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:04 am
by Gands
Manus Dei wrote:
Gands wrote:Well, his grandfather was a lawyer, so that makes sense.
i am quite sure lawyering is not passed hereditarily
nonsense

my grandfather was a mechanical engineer
i can assemble things from ikea with minimal difficulty

CONCESSION ACCEPTED

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:39 am
by timmy
uraniun235 wrote:I think the best approach for that kind of story would have been to take... whatever the name of that DMZ Indian relocation episode was, excise the dumbass Traveler ending, and leave it at Wesley throwing away all of his previous ambitions for that one cause, that one moment. And the end of the episode would be him basically coming to grips with having effectively severed himself forever from the family he knew, not being able to just drop by and chill out if the Traveler feels like swinging by this quadrant again, and having to figure out what to do with his life now that he will never be in Starfleet like he'd hoped.
When I first saw the episode at the age of twelve my reaction was 'why would he be bored of Starfleet? What's wrong with him? It wasn't until I was an adult with a string of life disappointments behind me that I properly understood what they were going for. Him getting everything he could wish for via Deus Ex cheapens that message like crazy, but at the same time it's a funny bit of parallel for Wil Wheaton and his involvement in Trek: came in starry eyed, left jaded and nursing a grudge against the whole deal, and needing time to discover what his life was really about.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:41 am
by evilsoup
Flagg wrote:
evilsoup wrote:mang all this is reminding me of how good nBSG was
Fixed
It was mostly good, but it could have been so much better
they should have focused on the civilian fleet a lot more

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:20 pm
by RogueIce
timmy wrote:Wil Wheaton and his involvement in Trek: came in starry eyed, left jaded and nursing a grudge against the whole deal, and needing time to discover what his life was really about.
Being the best guest star The Big Bang Theory has ever had?

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:23 pm
by Oxymoron
Becoming a Nerd God ?

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:32 pm
by timmy
Both essentially correct.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:45 am
by F.J. Prefect, Esq
Nietzslime wrote:when the show tried to convince us that the admiral's son was a new untainted hope like obama was when i seriously started questioning whether the writers of bsg understood their own show, or whether they had ever seen episodes of it
Wasn't that like

Back in the first season

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:05 pm
by Crazedwraith
well lee was something of a political idealist in the first season. But that ended up just causing lots of problems for everyone. not making him the one true saviour of the fleet.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:32 pm
by RogueIce
The hot sex between Adama and Roslin is what saved the fleet. :colbert:

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:45 pm
by Darksi4190
Ugh. Please don't make me imagine that. I'd like to keep my sanity thank you very much.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:25 pm
by Veef
There's nothing insane about true television scripted live.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:58 pm
by RogueIce
Look, Olmos may be a little too old, but I'm pretty sure Ron Jeremy is still doing porn so it's probably not the worst thing man has ever seen.

Mary McDonnell is a total MILF though and I'd love to have seen her boobies and maybe butt in some Showtime-esque softcore. Which would also tend to limit Olmos' old man factor, too.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:20 am
by Questor
RogueIce wrote:Look, Olmos may be a little too old, but I'm pretty sure Ron Jeremy is still doing porn so it's probably not the worst thing man has ever seen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2Jna6kxjU

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:40 am
by Nietzslime
RogueIce wrote:The hot sex between Adama and Roslin is what saved the fleet. :colbert:
their relationship was adorable and i will have none of your guff

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:11 am
by Flagg
Nietzslime wrote:
RogueIce wrote:The hot sex between Adama and Roslin is what saved the fleet. :colbert:
their relationship was adorable and i will have none of your guff

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:10 am
by timmy
Thirded.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:38 pm
by Big Orangutan
He plays very nerdy boardgames living room set used by porno productions.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:43 pm
by Crazedwraith
Big Orangutan wrote:He plays very nerdy boardgames living room set used by porno productions.
..?

Following still you not

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:45 pm
by evilsoup
the chatbox algorithm has finally broken down

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:41 pm
by Big Orangutan
Just making an awkward attempt at idle prattle.

Re: Top 25 TNG Episodes

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:12 am
by Veef
Big Orangutan wrote:Just making an awkward attempt at idle prattle.
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