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It generally means the most rational move isn't necessarily the one that will produce the best outcome and...oh, wait, sorry, that's actual game theory.adr wrote:q: does game theory means "be a giant asshole and you will always win"?
This, but that thread is ridiculously stupid now. Some of the posts are trending towards Yahoo! News comment-tard level.Djinnkitty83 wrote:http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 2&t=151691
Shroomie, that is one of the best trolls I've ever seen you do. Not only did you make the warmongerers do backflips, but you also managed to bring out some blatant administrative hypocrisy in the process.
adr wrote:what about my love for the greatest humanity has to offer?
jesus, socrates, martin luther king, riker
I was thinking more of the "What shroom said, but serious" crowd. And of course the morons who didn't see the trolling as soon as they saw shroom's name next to the post.adr wrote:i just stopped laughing a second ago at my own bad joke
i'm so fucking tired i need to go to bed
GOWRON
(continuing)
DaH! (now!)
D'Ghor swings his blade back, preparing for a mighty
swing... but in that moment, Quark THROWS his sword
across the room, disarming himself. D'Ghor pauses,
surprised by the move. Quark stands his ground and
glares at D'Ghor.
QUARK
Go ahead. Kill me. That's why I'm
here, isn't it, to be killed? Well,
here I am, so go ahead and do it.
D'Ghor has been caught off-guard here, and he hesitates.
Quark uses his hesitation to turn to Gowron and the Council.
QUARK
(continuing, to Council)
You all want me to pick up that sword
and try to fight him, don't you?
But I don't have a chance and you
know it. You only want me to put up
a fight so your precious honor will
be satisfied. Well, I'm not going
to make it easy for you.
(beat)
Having me fight D'Ghor is nothing
more than an execution... so if that's
what you want, that's what you're
going to get: an execution. No honor,
no glory...
Quark turns back to D'Ghor, who is watching him closely.
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QUARK
(to D'Ghor)
And when you tell your children and
your grandchildren the glorious story
of how you rose to power and took
Grilka's house from her, I hope you
remember to tell them how you
heroically killed an unarmed Ferengi
half your size.
Gowron and the Council members are shifting unhappily in
their places... they're not too happy about the way this is
happening. But D'Ghor only gives Quark a small smile.
D'GHOR
(softly)
Whatever you say, Ferengi...
D'Ghor cocks back the blade for a killing stroke... and he
is about to cut Quark in two, when Gowron swiftly moves in
and grabs the sword, freezing D'Ghor in place. Gowron's
attitude is both shamed and disappointed.
GOWRON
What are you doing?
D'Ghor is genuinely shocked... he loosens his grip on the
sword and Gowron pulls it away from him in disgust.
GOWRON
I didn't want to believe the things
he said about you yesterday... but
if you can stand here and... murder
this pathetic little man, then you
have no honor. And you have no place
in this hall.
Gowron throws the bat'leth to the ground, and then turns his
back on D'Ghor. The other Council members all turn away
from D'Ghor, who has now been shamed before everyone. Gowron
signals to one of the Guards in the room, who then moves to
D'Ghor. D'Ghor stares at them all in disbelief... then turns
and lets the Guard escort him from the room. Gowron glances
at Quark in a mixture of disbelief and admiration.
GOWRON
(shaking his head)
A brave Ferengi... who would have
thought it possible?
adr wrote:"What Islam has had trouble with is secularization"
out of context i know but come on
I knew it! You're Stas Bush's sockpuppet!Aaron wrote:Yeah, and I was born in fucking Moscow.
You know that German (Luftwaffe?) interrogator that got prisoners to talk by becoming friends with them?adr wrote:yeah
what i love is the prisoner's dilemma thing (which is just one example of the general game theory concept of course but the famous one everybody seems to talk about exclusively),
anyway the right answer is to cooperate with the other prisoner. in simulations, the best score is gotten when trust the other guy unless he gives you a reason not to.
but this is brought up all the time by people saying "betray every time"
the fucking worst is the I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP KILLING STAR argument from atomic rockets ppl
"assume the other guy thinks the way you do"
if that's true, it's fucking trivial logic to get to the cooperation conclusion. You can trust yourself.
but no we need to kill them all because they'd do the same to us
with relativistic kinetic kill vehicles for maximum lols
i know i'm preaching to the choir here but speaking of preaching fundamentalist islam is pure evil
Fortunately I remember nothing of those days.RogueIce wrote:I knew it! You're Stas Bush's sockpuppet!Aaron wrote:Yeah, and I was born in fucking Moscow.
i think you have him confused with shadowdragonnumbers?Questor wrote:Why is Alphawolf55 back? Didn't he get titled and banned for that rediculous thing where he wanted to sue his mother?
the funny thing is that how a game can be solved is pretty heavily dependent on the assumptions about the players, and their payoffs. for example, just changing the assumption of "prisoners can't communicate" to "now they can" can change the game.adr wrote:yeah
what i love is the prisoner's dilemma thing (which is just one example of the general game theory concept of course but the famous one everybody seems to talk about exclusively),
anyway the right answer is to cooperate with the other prisoner. in simulations, the best score is gotten when trust the other guy unless he gives you a reason not to.
but this is brought up all the time by people saying "betray every time"
the fucking worst is the I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP KILLING STAR argument from atomic rockets ppl
"assume the other guy thinks the way you do"
if that's true, it's fucking trivial logic to get to the cooperation conclusion. You can trust yourself.
but no we need to kill them all because they'd do the same to us
with relativistic kinetic kill vehicles for maximum lols
i know i'm preaching to the choir here but speaking of preaching fundamentalist islam is pure evil
