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Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:31 pm
by Oxymoron
It did. But it was just a warning, not an error.
Oh well. From tomorrow onward I probably will not have to treat with that piece of shit code anymore. I'll just send a mail to the company responsible for it to inform them of the bug, and I'll translate their algorithm into a more (re)usable language for what we do.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:56 pm
by RogueIce
You know OxyRabid, your first mistake was in taking a programming job to begin with.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:16 am
by Oxymoron
Oh well. Better than to work in retail.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:56 am
by RogueIce
You have a point there.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:10 pm
by Oxymoron
Why I like python :
a bit of code in C => doesn't work as intended and painful to read to try to understand what went wrong.
python => works, do a lot more than what was done by the C code, the defined functions can be easily reused in other code by importing the file as a module, and the code itself is half the size of the C code and easy to read.
concession accepted
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:43 pm
by Dooey Jo
python borrows the worst parts of javascript and adds the feature that whitespace itself can break a program without compiler warnings
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:24 pm
by adr
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:20 pm
by Oxymoron
Trust me, I'll bitch about it once I'll have something to bitch about.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:03 pm
by Oxymoron
Anyway, I operate under the assumption that every programming language is shitty in its own unique way. It's just that for now, as a beginner, I place ease of use and intuitiveness above other considerations. And from my very limited exposition to programming, Python win this particular round.
By curiosity, DJ, what's the "worst parts of JS" that you say Python draw upon ?
Maybe I'll have a look at that D + Python thingy. But it's not as if I'm going to use it anyway : I have no choice about what I use at work, and the only personal project I'm envisioning as of now would require me to use Java anyway, so...
Maybe for later.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:33 pm
by Dooey Jo
mainly the type system which makes no difference between declaring and assigning variables, meaning if you misspell a variable this might not be a compile-time error, and dynamic typing, meaning you can't really assume anything about the input to your functions (nor the output)
and of course the awful non-deterministic object lifetimes, even though it has something resembling destructors
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:26 pm
by adr
Oxymoron wrote:Maybe I'll have a look at that D + Python thingy. But it's not as if I'm going to use it anyway : I have no choice about what I use at work, and the only personal project I'm envisioning as of now would require me to use Java anyway, so...
yeah that kind of thing is more like if you have a core app in D and want to offer some kind of user scripting to it with the python
for example if you were doing a text editor, you could let the users write little python scripts and assign them to custom macro keys to automate your tasks
i just posted it because it happened to be in my email inbox this morning though, there's no actual point there. aside from the commentators praising D
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:28 pm
by adr
Dooey Jo wrote:dynamic typing, meaning you can't really assume anything about the input to your functions (nor the output)
i love the ppl saying their dynamic langs are super productive and their tests catch moar bugs than static types anyway
but then i look at the tests
Code: Select all
assert(typeof a == "Number");
assert(typeof b == "String");
LOL
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:33 pm
by Oxymoron
Just today I created a function that in one case return a(n instantiated) socket object, and in the other return an integer (zero)
though I changed it to return only a socket object when I realized that the failure test I was realizing was solved by the interpreter just crashing in case of failure
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:02 pm
by RyanThunder
Oxymoron wrote:Just today I created a function that in one case return a(n instantiated) socket object, and in the other return an integer (zero)
You are a horrible human being. xD
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:25 am
by Zod
Today I got paid minimum wage to watch dysfunctional couples and families scream at each other on a national daytime talk-show as part of the studio audience. Fun times.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:21 am
by joviwan
they... they pay studio audiences?
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:36 am
by Zod
joviwan wrote:they... they pay studio audiences?
Empty seats are bad for their image so they got to fill vacancies somehow. I'm not complaining, it's easy money.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:09 pm
by The Spartan
Did you have to yell stupid things at them?
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:14 pm
by Zablorg
yeah i'd like to know what the actual requirements were
do you worry you'll get typecast
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:44 pm
by RogueIce
JER-REY! JER-REY! JER-REY!
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:22 pm
by Zod
There wasn't that much in the way of requirements. You submit a headshot to their website and if they want you they'll approve your ticket request. You had to emote on queue though, there were a couple of guys there to make sure the audience cheered or reacted appropriately. I was starting to get a migraine at the end between the two-hour bus-ride there and all the clapping.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:38 pm
by Aaron
8 hours sweating my ass off in a classroom and an hour drive home. I smell like a goat.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:44 am
by Aaron
Every Remembrance Day it rains, and it's raining today. I've always felt it to be oddly appropriate.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:52 am
by xon
Dooey Jo wrote:mainly the type system which makes no difference between declaring and assigning variables, meaning if you misspell a variable this might not be a compile-time error, and dynamic typing, meaning you can't really assume anything about the input to your functions (nor the output)
Actually, the worse part about javascript is that all number are actually floatpoint values not integers.
And floatpoint numbers are
horrible for tripping people up who expect sane integer-like number behaviour but with a decimal point.
Re: Lament 2: Cry Harder
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:54 am
by xon
RyanThunder wrote:needs a like button
Kinda tempted to install the following mod;
thanks for and modify it to use the word "like" instead.