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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:07 pm
by Veef
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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:20 am
by Aaron
Man you can almost taste the hate for Iran in that thread.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:23 am
by Nietzslime
Didn't you know? Iranians are soulless islamist killing machines, not unlike Great White Sharks.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:28 am
by Flagg
Nietzslime wrote:Didn't you know? Iranians are soulless islamist killing machines, not unlike Great White Sharks.
If you're going to compare soulless killing machines to Persians I'm going to have to ask you to step outside.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:32 am
by Veef
well can't trust those MUSSULMEN

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:36 am
by Flagg
Especially not Persian MUSSELMEN!

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:08 am
by starku
Aaron wrote:Man you can almost taste the hate for Iran in that thread.
i don't even get it

i mean there are plenty of crazy countries out there y'know? why's iran so bad

is it because it's all america's fault they're like this? :lol:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:09 am
by Flagg
It's because they are ISLAMISTS. North Korea already has nukes and yet they don't use them and they have a certified batshit crazy leader.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:12 am
by Aaron
starku wrote:
Aaron wrote:Man you can almost taste the hate for Iran in that thread.
i don't even get it

i mean there are plenty of crazy countries out there y'know? why's iran so bad

is it because it's all america's fault they're like this? :lol:
*shrug* America always has to have a boogyman.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:15 am
by starku
the insecurity inherent in the american cultural mindset just never ceases to confuse me


like


they win, right? they're the most powerful nation in all of history
what's there to be worried about?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:19 am
by Aaron
I dunno man, it's the disconnect that gets me.

"We stomp around the world fucking countries at will, but how dare you dislike us!"

Their apparently the only nation that is permitted to act in its interests.

I'm glad I live in a country that was formed out of a corporation, and generally minds its own business.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:23 am
by starku
man we were laughing abuot 'game theory' before right

but my favourite phrase from the intellecutal crucible is 'realpolitik'

because on the internet it means 'fuck everyone up for no reason, or just because, but only for america, deal with it SMUGDOG'

i guess this iran shit is the same old

oh emm gee people we don't like might get nuclear weapons
the solutino isn't to have a normal relationship with them or remove the reasons they desire nuclear weapons

it's to futilely try to stop them while engaging is as much bombastic posturing as possible, so as to ensure that nce they DO get them they'll point them at us

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:27 am
by Civil War Man
A lot of Americans don't travel enough to realize that people disliking the American government and its policies is not the same as them disliking Americans.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:27 am
by The Spartan
Aaron wrote:I dunno man, it's the disconnect that gets me.

"We stomp around the world fucking countries at will, but how dare you dislike us!"

Their apparently the only nation that is permitted to act in its interests.

I'm glad I live in a country that was formed out of a corporation, and generally minds its own business.
But Aaron, don't you understand? They owe us for protecting them from communism/protecting them from terrorism/giving them all that money/because we're America and we want that thing they have.

I mean, ferchrisake, we invaded a country for bananas.

BANANAS

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:29 am
by starku
Civil War Man wrote:A lot of Americans don't travel enough to realize that people disliking the American government and its policies is not the same as them disliking Americans.
i think that's probably ebcause the media (in all countries) conflates the two

disagree with policy, law or atttitude in country = HATE OUR NATION

the difference between the mass of population in a country and the leadership, or decisionmakers or whatever is probably too comlpex for most people anyway

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:33 am
by Aaron
I have no idea what 'realpolitik' is even supposed to mean.
But Aaron, don't you understand? They owe us for protecting them from communism/protecting them from terrorism/giving them all that money/because we're America and we want that thing they have.

I mean, ferchrisake, we invaded a country for bananas.

BANANAS
What? When?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:34 am
by Zod
Aaron wrote:I have no idea what 'realpolitik' is even supposed to mean.
hpca is realpolitik

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:35 am
by Aaron
Ahh...racism

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:35 am
by Bakustra
1910s and 1920s. We staged a lot of interventions for the United Fruit Company, now known as Chiquita. One of the Marines who was an officer later reminisced:
General Smedley F. Butler wrote:I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:37 am
by Aaron
I've read that before, it just never clicked that, well...fruit.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:38 am
by starku
realpolitik is supposed to be playing politics and diplomacy to win, rather than follow a moral, idealistic or pride-based process. you're supposed to be friends with people that benefit you, destroy people too weak to stop you, and come out of it with a stable, profitable situation where you are safe and everyone important loves you or can't do shit


americans translate this into WE FUCK YOU UP

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:44 am
by Flagg
America is a government "of the people, by the people, for the people or some conflation of that shit that always was drilled into my head when I was trying not to pay attention to the lies they taught me in school. So why bother separating the American governments actions when we're a fucking democracy and elect the cunts who do this shit? It's somewhat self sustaining at this point, but if we had the intestinal fortitude to do it we could end that shit, we're just too cowardly as a people to do it. So by all means, fucking hate the American people. We deserve it.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:45 am
by artemas
Aaron wrote:
starku wrote:
Aaron wrote:Man you can almost taste the hate for Iran in that thread.
i don't even get it

i mean there are plenty of crazy countries out there y'know? why's iran so bad

is it because it's all america's fault they're like this? :lol:
*shrug* America always has to have a boogyman.

the funny thing is

so does iran:v

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:46 am
by starku
Flagg wrote:America is a government "of the people, by the people, for the people or some conflation of that shit that always was drilled into my head when I was trying not to pay attention to the lies they taught me in school. So why bother separating the American governments actions when we're a fucking democracy and elect the cunts who do this shit? It's somewhat self sustaining at this point, but if we had the intestinal fortitude to do it we could end that shit, we're just too cowardly as a people to do it. So by all means, fucking hate the American people. We deserve it.
your democracy is pretty broken

a combinatin of lots of non-citizens, lots of citzen non-voters, the dumbest distribution of districts adn represetnatives outside soviet russia, etc

so you cant' really hold yank tourist #187417836218 responsible for old barry on the hill, even in part

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:48 am
by Flagg
starku wrote:
Flagg wrote:America is a government "of the people, by the people, for the people or some conflation of that shit that always was drilled into my head when I was trying not to pay attention to the lies they taught me in school. So why bother separating the American governments actions when we're a fucking democracy and elect the cunts who do this shit? It's somewhat self sustaining at this point, but if we had the intestinal fortitude to do it we could end that shit, we're just too cowardly as a people to do it. So by all means, fucking hate the American people. We deserve it.
your democracy is pretty broken

a combinatin of lots of non-citizens, lots of citzen non-voters, the dumbest distribution of districts adn represetnatives outside soviet russia, etc

so you cant' really hold yank tourist #187417836218 responsible for old barry on the hill, even in part

I dunno man, we elect the people responsible for all of the gerrymandering and don't raise a ruckus when they do it. I think you can partially blame random yank tourist #187417836218. I mean don't like, go full bogan and stab him, but at least call him a fucker. All the smart Americans pretend to be Canadian anyway.