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RyanThunder wrote:They probably have a centrally-managed command economy.

If it's an interstellar federation, why would the economy be centralized instead of being managed at the federated-state level and simply coordinated by the Federation for resource-reallocation between colonies ?

... Though upon further reflection this would still be somewhat centrally managed, only with many centers instead of only one...

Risa is the pleasure planet

there is a currency, there

IF YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN

Oxymoron wrote:

RyanThunder wrote:They probably have a centrally-managed command economy.

If it's an interstellar federation, why would the economy be centralized instead of being managed at the federated-state level and simply coordinated by the Federation for resource-reallocation between colonies ?

... Though upon further reflection this would still be somewhat centrally managed, only with many centers instead of only one...

I get the impression I get is that worlds are allowed to do a they see fit, provided they met certain standards. No slavery, etc.

that episode also was like "achieved jamajaron"

the sfdebris video said jamaharon == fucking

but fucking isn't something you achieve

what could it be?????????????????????????????????????????

Maybe it's a religious, or spiritual thing that just involves sex.

Phantasee wrote:Risa is the pleasure planet

there is a currency, there

IF YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN

the currency on risa is butt seks

So Troi wondered why the federation was dealing with the melted face people in insurrection cause they have slaves and make drugs.

But the Feds are close allies with the Klingons, an empire that includes subject races, and are essentially warmongering thugs...

realpolitik

i was looking at internet trek reviews yesterday. one of them is "the defector" tng

in this episode, a romulan admiral defects to the federation, spilling all kinds of secret info to picard in an attempt to prevent a war

but in the end it turns out that the romulans fed him fake stuff to test his loyalty. he failed



what the 'net reviewer pointed out was that the romulan admiral gave picard messages for his children and he was confident that one day they would be delivered

what this means is that the romulan regime wasn't going to punish his family for his betrayals (at least not too bad anyway)


contrast to the real world where that kind of family as hostage shit happens a lot

....and i now would also note that with the klingon empire, where "sins of the father" had both worf and kurn at risk of execution for their father's betrayal of the empire

adr wrote:that episode also was like "achieved jamajaron"

the sfdebris video said jamaharon == fucking

but fucking isn't something you achieve

what could it be?????????????????????????????????????????

maybe "jamajaron" is risian for "orgasm"

Oxymoron wrote:

RyanThunder wrote:They probably have a centrally-managed command economy.

If it's an interstellar federation, why would the economy be centralized instead of being managed at the federated-state level and simply coordinated by the Federation for resource-reallocation between colonies ?

... Though upon further reflection this would still be somewhat centrally managed, only with many centers instead of only one...

Well I actually meant what you said in the end there, but I think subspace communication might let you attempt to centrally manage on the interstellar scale like that as well.

Aaron wrote:So Troi wondered why the federation was dealing with the melted face people in insurrection cause they have slaves and make drugs.

But the Feds are close allies with the Klingons, an empire that includes subject races, and are essentially warmongering thugs...

Perhaps between TOS and TNG, the Klingons were slowly becoming less brutal to their subjects, so the Federation thought that they could play moral leader. In a century or so, the Klingon Republic or something.

uraniun235 wrote:maybe "jamajaron" is risian for "orgasm"

i thought that too but booooorrrriiiinnnngggg (and christ could i spell it worse??????)

"boring orgasm" sounds like an

oxymoron

Aaron wrote:But the Feds are close allies with the Klingons, an empire that includes subject races, and are essentially warmongering thugs...

Ddi we ever actuall see any of these subject races or anything? Klingon Empire seems pretty homogenous whenever we're there.

Were they mentioned in Errand Of Mercy or something?

That one where the Romulans brain wash Geordi, he was going to declare he did it for someones independence. Kriosian or something.

oh cool. not seen that episode for yonks. Should really watch the last episodes of my TNG s4 boxset. And my season 7 DS9 one.

I just sort of lost interest part way through. Sooo much ezri... yawn.

adr wrote:that episode also was like "achieved jamajaron"

the sfdebris video said jamaharon == fucking

but fucking isn't something you achieve

what could it be?????????????????????????????????????????

But dude sex IS an Unlockable Achievement
hence the phrase:
"I totally scored with that girl"

whoooaaaa

they didn't have cheevos back in 1989 though

I'm pretty sure banging a hottie has always been considered an achievement
Since the dawn of time

" Way outta yo' League, bro"

Oxymoron wrote:"boring orgasm" sounds like an

oxymoron

Gands wrote:Perhaps between TOS and TNG, the Klingons were slowly becoming less brutal to their subjects, so the Federation thought that they could play moral leader. In a century or so, the Klingon Republic or something.

I will totally subscribe to this notion because I have just read a book about the lives of three UN foreign workers in the 90s as the New World Order kicked in. After the Battle of Mogadishu and Clinton's reaction to that, with the administration afraid to commit forces for UN ops, Haitians, Rwandans, Serbians, all were emboldened to go on an orgy of genocide knowing that the America wouldn't back a UN intervention until it was far too late.

Given Roddenberry's intent for TNG, I can totally, totally see this being the case.

I was reading TEO's SWvST forum. (i know, i know, but i was bored) and someone there was making a big deal about the predictions the crazy Genetically Modified people made about the dominion war. That the UFP's losing was inevitable and the be 900 billion casualties and so on.

And I was thinking; but they didn't lose in the end. So were The GM people just wrong? Or was there soem factor they didn't account for? This was after DS9 was retaken, so its not like the prophet's intervention changed things greatly after that.

The only think, I guess they might not have known about was Section 31. But even then Section 31 didn't really change feddie defeat into victory. Maybe the disease got the founder to surrender rather than fight to the bitter end. But surely that doesn't change the eventual outcome. Just really ramps up the allied casualties.

Or was Damar's rebellion an unexpected turning point?


I don't know, seems like the simplest idea is the GM Guy's predictions weren't all they were hyped up to be.