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Crazedwraith wrote:

Oxymoron wrote: PS : funny how many mentions of "rule lawyering" there's in the rules, and how much the staff itself can be guilty of it...

*checks rules*

you mean that huge number of one mention

Huh ? Well, maybe. I didn't check back to count to be honest. I had read them only one time, but what I understood of it, in context, was "So we have these rules, but don't try to appeal to them when a mod has got you by the balls 'cuz it's gonna pisses us off more than anything else".
I may also have confused it with the number of time I've seen "rule lawyering" (or "arguing with mods") stated as a ban-able offense in parting shot.
I dunno, really...


TL;DR : I just love bitching about people's inconsistencies & hypocrisy, including my own.

that's a fair interpretation of the rule.

i was just being pedantic about what the rules actually said, not the actual implementation of them.

continuing to argue against dw for any length is a well known bannable offense

Incoherent rambling ahoy :

I know at this point it's beating a dead horse, but really, I think one of SDN's biggest problem is the obsession people have with "winning" arguments, instead of simply exchanging ideas, like, you know, real people ?
But, honestly, it's really not that surprising, when your board has been born of Vs. debates based on gigatonz and canons and cannons, and it's populated by people with chronically low self-esteem with delusions of intellectual superiority trying to compensate on the Internet for their real lives shortcomings...

here's something else that pisses me off

if a discussion meanders, it isnt' meandering

it is "so i see you didn't answer CONCESSION ACCEPTED"



similarly if you change your position and/or explore some other side

"BEFORE YOU SAID THIS ARE YOU LYING NOW OR WERE YOU LYING THEN?"




when you react that way


even if someone changes


they can't admit it

Discussion impossible about anything anyone 'important' hunks they know the answer to

Ender posted a list of things considerate debaters are supposed in an academic setting that I guess he got as part of his schooling, and it had stuff like "give your opponent the benefit of the doubt" and stuff. I wish he had posted it in a public forum because it was pretty funny to see the disconnect between academia and the Crucible.

Aaron wrote:Ender posted a list of things considerate debaters are supposed in an academic setting that I guess he got as part of his schooling, and it had stuff like "give your opponent the benefit of the doubt" and stuff. I wish he had posted it in a public forum because it was pretty funny to see the disconnect between academia and the Crucible rest of the internet.

fixed that for you

so here's a personal flaw of mine

i feel inadequate looking up other people's arguments b/c it makes me wonder if i'm really getting it well enough to argue it myself

whenever i talk about is and ought i have to wonder

did that come from my superior intellect?

or am i just repeating something i saw hume say once?

Who can claim he has ever had a 100% original thought nobody ever had before ? I know I can't.

its ok if other people have had it

i love reinventing wheels that means i'm a philosopher myself just like all the greats

what i don't love is subconscious plagiarism. then i'm just some boring collection of other people's works. it doesn't take a great mind to repeat what someone else said


i guess i'm a little insecure and always in search of validation both from myself and from others




hey i just thought of a tng quote that rox from 11001001 in the first season

let me get the exact words from my script collection

wait a minute i can't find it in there

i'm sure this is the episode


well maybe its not in the script or maybe im wrong


but mr. data is making a composition of some sort, musical or painting. if could remember the details, even just a few exact words, i could probably find it in a computer search!!!!!! aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh


anyway data is making something and he questions if it is really "him" because each part of his performance can be traced back to someone's style he studied

picard retorts: did any of them make that unique blend of styles before?

data says no

picard says that's data's creativity showing, in how he blended the styles, even if each part was from his vast databank



i love tng

Indeed. This is why I mentioned queueing to the troll before he made it clear that he was just here to attack the "New Atheists" and not really to discuss secular morality at all.

oh my god i can't get over this

maybe if he poisons the well with enough personal attacks and appeals to motive his devotees won't realize he's completely full of shit and got called on it

See, I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of lolz because, in my old age, my attention span has dropped to such a degree that I can't be fucked to read five thousand word debates.

Or maybe I just don't give a shit about dumbass minutae (SP?)

man i really fucking hate darkwing duck's outrageous classism and misanthropy so much

that i am tempted to respond with amateur psycho-socioanalysis

"you're so convinced that the working class are all functionally I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP because you're rationalizing the great disparity between your compensation, lifestyle etc. and theirs by saying that it's because you deserve it because you're smarter than they are. you're not smart enough to take the next step and become an outright authoritarian, as is the logical conclusion of the majority of the electorate being too stupid to brush their teeth properly, though, so maybe you should re-evaluate your ideology."

wonder how many replies i could go before drake mallard banned me? 1? 2?

Chadz wrote:See, I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of lolz because, in my old age, my attention span has dropped to such a degree that I can't be fucked to read five thousand word debates.

Or maybe I just don't give a shit about dumbass minutae (SP?)

you're a healthier mang than i, chards

now imma vent by trolling the african origins of egypt thread with sociology! see you in a few!

He's in favour of iq tests to vote, so...seems he's already there.

Yet he thinks the system in starship troopers is dumb.

Aaron wrote:He's in favour of iq tests to vote, so...seems he's already there.

Yet he thinks the system in starship troopers is dumb.

This.

Aaron wrote:He's in favour of iq tests to vote, so...seems he's already there.

Yet he thinks the system in starship troopers is dumb.

its because soldiers are more likely to be working-class and thus I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP and anyways he probably secretly (or not-so-secretly) hates soldiers- i know that a lot of people in his position in the USA are ambivalent to hostile towards the soldiers and military. basically, fuck darkwing duck.

linkz plz

You know, for a time I honestly argued that Heinlein's Starship Trooper system made sense and could be considered an improvement over today's system.

Then I took some "classes" on Fascism, Democracy, and the results segregation and restriction of political rights can have on a society.

Let's just say my opinions have changed...

oh btw you might remember i mentioned a local news special reprot called THE INTERNET BRAIN

well in part 2 of their thing they said the internet might be addictive

using it like literally warps your brain so you feel empty without it



i might be an addict




now i've wondered before if i was ever addicted to something could i quit cold turkey?


i'm tempted to quit the internet

......maybe later i need it for work


oh god i might actually be addicted

adr wrote:linkz plz

my trolling, with bonus marxism to drive zentei to pump his ickle fists with rage: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... &start=450

Oxymoron wrote:You know, for a time I honestly argued that Heinlein's Starship Trooper system made sense and could be considered an improvement over today's system.

Then I took some "classes" on Fascism, Democracy, and the results segregation and restriction of political rights can have on a society.

Let's just say my opinions have changed...

this is a natural part of growing up

@ ADR, RE : Internet addiction :

I know when I travel in foreign lands without an internet connection (or even just a PC for that matter) I start feeling mild withdrawal symptoms if I haven't been able to connect for more than a few days. It generally start to be less severe as times goes by and I find other things to do (like reading books or interacting with other humans), but I know the first thing I always do when I get back home is to start the computer...

Kustra, BA wrote:this is a natural part of growing up

Like I said to Shroom, for me the only constant in life is Change.

hey thanas, does it hurt to talk out of both sides of your mouth? was it difficult to get the surgery that gave you two faces?

adr wrote:

Indeed. This is why I mentioned queueing to the troll before he made it clear that he was just here to attack the "New Atheists" and not really to discuss secular morality at all.

oh my god i can't get over this

maybe if he poisons the well with enough personal attacks and appeals to motive his devotees won't realize he's completely full of shit and got called on it

people have personal styles

some people just never challenge theirs

LOLOLOLOLOL

idiots, will you never learn

appeal to motive is a fallacy