Re: so nerds and scifi franchises
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:28 pm
i fail to see how i could disagree with a flaming ice cube
"you said you'd ban me last" "i lied"
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a lot of people find confrontation to be stressful and undesirable, fyistarku wrote:You don't have to be agitated to be confrontational
I actually find it quite relaxing
Internet shitheads seen like real ones because they can't actually cost you anything
Wow now you're jumping on the lol choc's a racist mini-meme. prove it, infinitesmal triscuit. How's about we just talk about the topic, sport. EDIT this was an interesting thread.Infinity Biscuit wrote:Someone said "we should give minorities better access to something to improve their lives" and Chocula responded with "no no give it to EVERYONE" and people really think it's because he's deeply concerned with everyone being given the right footing and not because he reacts reflexively against the spectre of REVERSE RACISM
you're beginning to sound like a broken recordCount Chocula wrote:Wow now you're jumping on the lol choc's a racist mini-meme. prove it, infinitesmal triscuit. How's about we just talk about the topic, sport. EDIT this was an interesting thread.Infinity Biscuit wrote:Someone said "we should give minorities better access to something to improve their lives" and Chocula responded with "no no give it to EVERYONE" and people really think it's because he's deeply concerned with everyone being given the right footing and not because he reacts reflexively against the spectre of REVERSE RACISM
fuck you, asshole
Then how do you explain Ryan Reynolds, sir? How do you explain him?Aaron wrote:White males are all fat and dumb
He's a Canadian. Doesn't count.The Spartan wrote:Then how do you explain Ryan Reynolds, sir? How do you explain him?Aaron wrote:White males are all fat and dumb
The Spartan wrote:So's Dan Aykroyd.
Or however the hell you spell his name.
Doesn't count.
One thing I found interesting upon a reread is that the study found the effect's the most extreme in video games. Considering how biased video game major characters are towards white males, I think that goes to show it's not just that certain groups are represented by flat, unflattering characters. White males, being the default choice, get so many more roles that you can more easily find the better examples by sheer number, and they always get first dibs at the interesting and important roles.Aaron wrote:Actually my first thought on that thread was that entertainment isn't exactly flattering to any group. White males are all fat and dumb, black woman shrieking harpies, etc.
its not just people or charactersInfinity Biscuit wrote:One thing I found interesting upon a reread is that the study found the effect's the most extreme in video games. Considering how biased video game major characters are towards white males, I think that goes to show it's not just that certain groups are represented by flat, unflattering characters. White males, being the default choice, get so many more roles that you can more easily find the better examples by sheer number, and they always get first dibs at the interesting and important roles.
no you ain't, it's good chatting and being chill and shituraniun235 wrote: i think part of it can also be simply lacking the background necessary to draw certain connections. like your LOTR example: i never picked up on the christian/catholic thing when i read it as a teenager, but i also didn't pick up on it when i read The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe as a kid, so maybe i just absorbed "dude dies and comes back to life" as just another storytelling convention, and didn't associate it with the resurrection of christ at all (in part because i was never a christian and the jesus story was never particularly special to me; if anything i tended to really resent ever having to hear about it or anything else pertaining to christianity, in large part because i associated christianity with being bored off my ass as a kid and dismissed everything about it as boring and uninteresting and irrelevant)
in fact even now thinking about it i'm struggling to figure out what the catholic connection is with LOTR, in part because it's been so long I'm not remembering it all, and in part because i still have a very, very rudimentary knowledge of christian mythos. is Saruman the Pope, making a covenant with the devil Sauron? or is it something else? this isn't to say i'm at all skeptical that there is a christian/catholic connection in LOTR, just to highlight that i'm still somewhat ignorant of things.
anyway i do appreciate your being patient with me, i know i've been a bit difficult in this thread.
yeah, i need to get over itAkhlut wrote:Everything's context dependent, obviously, and this isn't nearly as bad as someone raging obsessively over an ex-girlfriend or the like, but it's still less than optimal for Shroom, in my opinion.Zod wrote:I'd think that depends on context?Akhlut wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and say it's probably a sign of getting worse rather than better, dude. Or, at least, not getting better, as opposed to getting worse. I mean, if you had a friend who broke up with a girlfriend or parted ways with a friend, and every time they heard their name mentioned your friend went "GOD, FUCK 'EM," would you suppose they're doing better than someone who just shrugs and goes "eh, whatever"?Shroom Man 777 wrote:i hope my continuous screeding of 'gods fuck that place' is a sign that i'm getting better in severing myself from past shit rather than a sign of my getting worse
wait. wait wait wait wait wait wait.Jose Arcadio Bakendia wrote:no you ain't, it's good chatting and being chill and shituraniun235 wrote: i think part of it can also be simply lacking the background necessary to draw certain connections. like your LOTR example: i never picked up on the christian/catholic thing when i read it as a teenager, but i also didn't pick up on it when i read The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe as a kid, so maybe i just absorbed "dude dies and comes back to life" as just another storytelling convention, and didn't associate it with the resurrection of christ at all (in part because i was never a christian and the jesus story was never particularly special to me; if anything i tended to really resent ever having to hear about it or anything else pertaining to christianity, in large part because i associated christianity with being bored off my ass as a kid and dismissed everything about it as boring and uninteresting and irrelevant)
in fact even now thinking about it i'm struggling to figure out what the catholic connection is with LOTR, in part because it's been so long I'm not remembering it all, and in part because i still have a very, very rudimentary knowledge of christian mythos. is Saruman the Pope, making a covenant with the devil Sauron? or is it something else? this isn't to say i'm at all skeptical that there is a christian/catholic connection in LOTR, just to highlight that i'm still somewhat ignorant of things.
anyway i do appreciate your being patient with me, i know i've been a bit difficult in this thread.
anyways, LOTR is catholic not because of direct correlations so much as the worldview. the characters that resist the ring successfully (sam, faramir) are also the most sexual male characters (and faramir hooks up with the most sexual female character). within catholic (and orthodox) views, sexuality and regular sexhaving is essential to spiritual well-being, as long as you do it within marriage, which is why their (catholic leadership) attitude towards homosexuality is that it's only ok if you're celibate- can't get married, can't be having the good sex. so these characters are sexual and thus complete and grounded and capable of throwing off the ring, while poor asexual frodo falls.
there's also the perception of sin as an action, which is distinct from protestant and orthodox views of sin. frodo sets up his failure not by the ring being irresistible, but by using it actively to force smeagol to work with him- he chooses the easy path of sinfulness and thus is unable to let the ring go. there are probably other examples i'm not thinking of.