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Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:18 am
by Phantasee
Well I mean if his dad is a judge he should see that growing his weight around. Is is t going to help his son and will probably hinder his xase instead
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:21 am
by Zod
Phantasee wrote:Well I mean if his dad is a judge he should see that growing his weight around. Is is t going to help his son and will probably hinder his xase instead
He should have seen that going on national TV and trying to relay his son's account wouldn't actually help anything either since it's all hearsay, but he did it anyway.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:16 am
by Akhlut
Phantasee wrote:That shouldn't mean shit anymore, not when it's become an international news story. The Pope couldn't get him off, now.
Oh, I bet the Pope has some tricks to get Zimmerman off.
If you know what I mean.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:25 am
by Veef
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:59 am
by Zod
Akhlut wrote:Phantasee wrote:That shouldn't mean shit anymore, not when it's become an international news story. The Pope couldn't get him off, now.
Oh, I bet the Pope has some tricks to get Zimmerman off.
If you know what I mean.
Who knows what he learned while he was a Hitler youth.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:03 am
by F.J. Prefect, Esq
Oh man I'm glad someone in my followers list read that
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:25 am
by Flagg
@ Dalton for changing the thread title from something relevant because "NY Post Senationalistic". Because it's not like it was accurate or anything.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:34 am
by Flagg
I also love how he does it not 24 hours after giving me a warning for picking on their racist pet.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:47 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
So, you're claiming conspiracy for the title change? It was a shit title. Period. It was vague and not specific enough. No one would know what it was at the time unless they clicked on it.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:19 pm
by Flagg
Knubble tov wrote:So, you're claiming conspiracy for the title change? It was a shit title. Period. It was vague and not specific enough. No one would know what it was at the time unless they clicked on it.
No, I'm claiming that Dalton has a hair up his ass when it comes to me because I picked on their beloved Racist patricide attemptee. The title was in no way misleading and at most should have just been changed to have [Trayvon Martin] added at the end.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:28 pm
by Aaron
Dude, no he doesn't. He was really, pissed at Shep, I'll bet this is more related to Darkwing Duck then Rob. No one likes Shep.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:35 pm
by Flagg
Meh. You didn't get the PM I got. That and not a peep about fgalkins "apology" being horseshit tell me everything I need to know about where things stand. Though I guess you're right on it being more DW than Dalton. I mean I can find 5 articles about how racist Mal Liquor is just by google searching "40 ounce racism" but while Shep was given an opportunity to "clarify" I was told to fuck off and then given a warning. So I'm pretty much done with that shithole. I mean they let Knubs back in.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:42 pm
by Veef
sometimes you gotta drop the person other people don't like
kinda like your terrible uncle who says racist things at parties
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:45 pm
by Flagg
Oh and I love KS's "video is too poor quality" horseshit. That's some of the best grade security video I've ever seen. You can make out every detail on the motherfuckers face. He has no broken nose, he has no swollan lip, and he has no blood on his shirt. There may be some on his jacket but it's impossible to tell due to its color, and we'll likely never know now since I'm sure Zimmerman has gotten rid of all of the evidence. If Martin was on top of him like that murderer says he was he'd be covered in martins blood, too. So either Martin was never on top of him, or he backed off when he saw the gun.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:12 pm
by Darksi4190
See, that's why I like Michigan's self defense laws. Here you have a reasonable "duty to retreat." Even if you feel your life is in danger, you don't have the right to use lethal force unless there's no obvious way to escape. If that had happened here, Zimmerman would've forefitied his right to self defense when he chose to follow martin even though the police told him not to.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:26 pm
by Zod
I think it's kind of bullshit that the police in FL can just let someone go like that before they even have a proper autopsy done.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:35 pm
by Flagg
Zod wrote:I think it's kind of bullshit that the police in FL can just let someone go like that before they even have a proper autopsy done.
Well the fucked up thing is that the lead investigator was going to charge him and the Chief of Police and district attorney stepped in and said no. But you want to know what's really fucked? In FL there is a speedy trial law that gives them only 175 days to prosecute after an arrest or the case gets tossed. And there are some legal experts saying that even though he wasn't formally arrested, read his rights, and charged with anything, he could get away with it even if the new prosecutor and grand jury choose to indict him because since he was cuffed it was a "defacto arrest". Though not everyone agrees with that.
But the biggest mistake or malpractice by the police was in not testing Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol, which would have been done had he been processed.
My theory of the crime is that he was drunk (he sounded like he was on the 911 logs) saw a "fucking coon" in his neighborhood, chased him down, shot Martin after instigating a fight, and then told an easily dis proven lie at the scene. Being drunk and carrying a firearm, driving, or even being out in public are all "unlawful acts" which would mean the "stand your ground" law doesn't apply.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:38 pm
by Flagg
Darksi4190 wrote:See, that's why I like Michigan's self defense laws. Here you have a reasonable "duty to retreat." Even if you feel your life is in danger, you don't have the right to use lethal force unless there's no obvious way to escape. If that had happened here, Zimmerman would've forefitied his right to self defense when he chose to follow martin even though the police told him not to.
I think if you're in your car or house you have a right to meet force with force aka "stand your ground". However this bullshit where if you're walking down the street and get into a fight and whoever has the weapon and kills the other guy walks is just insanity. They liken it to the wild west, but they had stricter gun control laws then than we do now.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:49 pm
by The Spartan
Walking down the street, in the Florida law*, you do not have a duty to retreat. That doesn't (or shouldn't) apply here because he picked a fight. If you pick a fight, you have no right to kill.
Thing is, when there's no witnesses you could, theoretically, kill someone and then get off scot-free if you claim self-defense. The problem here being that he, I think obviously, instigated things and the police fucked up.
*Of course, I'm not a lawyer and have pieced this together over what I've read so take it with a grain of salt.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:51 pm
by Flagg
No, you're 100% right on both counts.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:04 pm
by Zod
The really fucked up thing is that by rights Trayvon could have been "standing his ground" when Zimmerman picked a fight with him. But apparently the guilty party is whoever's not alive anymore.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:26 pm
by starku
Veef wrote:sometimes you gotta drop the person other people don't like
kinda like your terrible uncle who says racist things at parties
I remember when zeon was broken record poison to any thread she posted in
And the brain trust wondered what to do
And though up new laws and new measures
And there was no answer and everyone was powerless
Ps the answer was 'ban zeon all problems solved'
But she was her friend so this was not possible
At least shep is nowhere near as out there as he was
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:45 pm
by weemadando
Shep, given my history with him (coordinating the Weekend of Hell and some other events) I will give some credit to for being a very conscientious troll in some things he says/does rather than just an ignoramus (not saying he's never the latter).
Unlike some other folks who don't understand what people think of them and thus don't exploit that for the comedy option at times.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:04 pm
by starku
Nerds think guy is ok if he speaks to them nicely
I am very surprised to hear this!
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:21 pm
by The Spartan
Zod wrote:But apparently the guilty party is whoever's not alive anymore.
Under the right circumstances that's exactly right.