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Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:40 am
by starku
Comparing Castro to Chavez is a bit of a lol
Is ADR forgetting that people lie again lol
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:41 am
by starku
Franco wrote a book where he wasn't so bad
Clearly a nice guy he says so himself
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:17 am
by adr-admin
yeah but i don't agree with franco's politics like at all
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:32 am
by starku
So long as you know you're being really I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP
Violent seizure of power is often followed by the destruction of the truth of that seizure
Thn you jut have to write a family friendly biography and dumbasses will decide it was all fine
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:34 am
by adr-admin
so anyway here's my idea for global peace
i'll conquer the world and suppress all dissent with my iron fist
LOL your new post pwned me
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:36 am
by Zod
an idea for global peace: how about we just stop killing each other?
too easy?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:47 am
by adr-admin
don't be silly, that's just what they'd be expecting us to do!
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:56 am
by adr-admin
starku wrote:Is ADR forgetting that people lie again lol
but seriously every fact in there that i've checked ended up matching facts from independent sources
sooooo there's really no reason to believe these things are lies
that's the problem here. if he got facts wrong it'd be easy to say "people lie lol"
if he was saying objectionable things, it'd be easy to say "third world dictator is a monster. whoknew?"
but it isn't any of those things
he comes across as a reasonable human being with sincere concerns about the environment and freedom
at the same time though america hates his guts
there has to be a reason for that
castro says it is because the rich capitalists in control want to use other countries for their own profit and power games
basically america hates cuba for their freedom which can inspire other states to stand up for themselves against american business interests
which is plausible
but i recognize fidel castro is a biased source so i'm not just taking his word for it
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:01 am
by Zod
so 5 hours into the game and i can safely say kingdoms of amalur is probably the best rpg i've played in the last year
the elder-what?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:24 am
by starku
But but but what about being able to collect cups
Hey adr read the res gestae divi Augustus and tell us what a great guy Augustus was plz
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:19 am
by Dooey Jo
it's possible for people to hold both good and fucked up opinions at the same time
Obviously castro won't talk about how his state capitalism was established and how it is maintained in articles about climate change or whatever. Although we can also note that since he is not a major industrial nation dependent on destroying the environment for profit, he can afford to hold reasonable opinions on these matters.
Whereas if you asked him on things like whether people should have a right to assemble freely, he will probably say "yes, BUT counter-revolutionaries, US agitators etc. etc.".
and yeah comparing chavez to castro or ahmadinejad is pretty funny, but hey he has control over parts of the us' oil supply so gotta demonise him so we can killfuck him without too much protests
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:46 am
by Civil War Man
adr wrote:there has to be a reason for that
castro says it is because the rich capitalists in control want to use other countries for their own profit and power games
basically america hates cuba for their freedom which can inspire other states to stand up for themselves against american business interests
This is pretty much it, if The Godfather II is anything to go on.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:39 pm
by Oxymoron
So ADR, are you saying that, like, if America does not like Cuba
it's basically because
the US hate their Freedom ?
Oh the irony
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:27 pm
by Dooey Jo
king george said
“They hate our freedom, our freedom of religion, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with one another.”
“You are either with us or with the terrorists.”
no george
you are the terrorists
and then bush killed thousands of people
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:55 pm
by Flagg
Tens of thousands. But remember, "Saddam tried to kill mah daddy!"
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:57 pm
by Oxymoron
Isn't it more like "mah Daddy tried ta kill Saddam" ?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:10 pm
by Akhlut
Flagg wrote:Tens of thousands. But remember, "Saddam tried to kill mah daddy!"
Hundreds of thousands, actually.
But, man, Castro is eeeeeevil.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:13 pm
by adr-admin
to be fair, the empire's evils don't actually negate the dictator's evils
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:19 pm
by Akhlut
True, but scale does matter a fair deal. Norway kills a handful of whales every year, but their military and citizens don't try to excuse one of their soldiers going apeshit crazy and murdering a dozen innocent civilians in a warzone.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:57 pm
by Questor
Seriously? Who's trying to excuse it?
Nobody I've talked to in real life seems to think there was anything excusable, and the editorials I've read are much more on the: "Wow, this guy went nuts hard. Why?"
That latter type of discussion is very common after a violent act. I seem to recall it after the child camp (still think that sounds like a wierd thing, but translation ftw.) murders.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:47 pm
by Aaron
Wonder how many useful posts ill get in my guard g & c thread.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:49 pm
by Zod
Questor wrote:Seriously? Who's trying to excuse it?
Nobody I've talked to in real life seems to think there was anything excusable, and the editorials I've read are much more on the: "Wow, this guy went nuts hard. Why?"
That latter type of discussion is very common after a violent act. I seem to recall it after the child camp (still think that sounds like a wierd thing, but translation ftw.) murders.
just go to any news article talking about it
plenty of people seem to think it's not really such a big deal because they've killed a bunch of our soldiers
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:45 pm
by Agent Bert Macklin
Police shoot black man after responding to his Life Alert
This will likely be the best entertainment I'll have this weekend.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:49 pm
by Zod
maybe he was wearing a hoody
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:26 pm
by Flagg
I expect KS and SVPD to defend this vigorously.