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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:32 pm
by Questor
Zod wrote:
Questor wrote:Seriously? Who's trying to excuse it?

Nobody I've talked to in real life seems to think there was anything excusable, and the editorials I've read are much more on the: "Wow, this guy went nuts hard. Why?"

That latter type of discussion is very common after a violent act. I seem to recall it after the child camp (still think that sounds like a wierd thing, but translation ftw.) murders.
just go to any news article talking about it

plenty of people seem to think it's not really such a big deal because they've killed a bunch of our soldiers
Commenters? Again, the article's I've read have been either "just the facts" or condemnatory.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:36 pm
by The Spartan
He means the comments at the bottom of the article.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:51 pm
by Questor
That's what I thought. I find it unfair to condemn the entire country on the basis of a group of people who, in the main, have not yet mastered basic spelling.

What would the result be if you judged other countries by TEO?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:53 pm
by Zod
Questor wrote:That's what I thought. I find it unfair to condemn the entire country on the basis of a group of people who, in the main, have not yet mastered basic spelling.

What would the result be if you judged other countries by TEO?
I'm not sure how you made that conclusion based on anything I said.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:57 pm
by Questor
You aren't. Akhult is.

You jumped in front of the bullet for him, though.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:57 pm
by Dooey Jo
that article commenters may actually be representative of the wider population is a terrifying prospect

but i don't think it's true, because if you look closely at any one site it's usually a small number of people spewing the same shit over every article and most people probably find it just as I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP as you or I do

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:59 pm
by Questor
BTW, to Akhult, who in the military is trying to excuse it?

Or are you just assuming?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:00 pm
by Zod
Dooey Jo wrote:that article commenters may actually be representative of the wider population is a terrifying prospect

but i don't think it's true, because if you look closely at any one site it's usually a small number of people spewing the same shit over every article and most people probably find it just as I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP as you or I do
i'm not so sure about that

it's not like it's isolated to one or two news sites, if you go to virtually any news site with even the slightest conservative bent you can find people defending them

it might not be representative of everyone but it certainly gives the impression that it's not just an outlier

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:04 pm
by Questor
In a world with Reddit and Social Media, I don't think that you can assume the populations don't mix. Especially the nuttier ones.

I know I've seen the same Paulite screeds on comments for papers from the Sacbee to the Costa Mesa Pilot.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:17 pm
by Flagg
Questor wrote:BTW, to Akhult, who in the military is trying to excuse it?

Or are you just assuming?

I've not seen any military people on TV defending him or excusing him at all. I mean they all seem to even call bullshit on TBI or PTSD being a culprit and lay the blame solely on him. I have seen non-military people trying to mitigate his responsibility, though.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:34 pm
by adr-admin
ron paul 2012

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:24 pm
by starku
It doesn't really matter how many people talk about something

On the Internet only prominence matters

If heaps of people looked at three fat guys fucking a goat that would assume cultural importance far above 'three guys'

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:53 pm
by Akhlut
Questor wrote:Seriously? Who's trying to excuse it?

Nobody I've talked to in real life seems to think there was anything excusable, and the editorials I've read are much more on the: "Wow, this guy went nuts hard. Why?"
Not the military, sorry, but there are more than a few people who are trying to excuse it. It was more of an exaggeration than anything else.

Although, again, the US government is pretty shitty and very hypocritical to accuse Castro of being evil when it has, fairly consistently for the past 220+ years, been pretty fucking evil itself, from sea to shining sea and overseas.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:06 am
by Director of Celestial Intelligence
Flagg wrote:I expect KS and SVPD to defend this vigorously.
You didn't factor Aly "Tryhard" Eska into your plans I see. :smug:

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:10 am
by Zod
Director of Celestial Intelligence wrote:
Flagg wrote:I expect KS and SVPD to defend this vigorously.
You didn't factor Aly "Tryhard" Eska into your plans I see. :smug:
the laugh is that alyeska's basically angry over semantics

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:00 am
by Director of Celestial Intelligence
Kamakazie Sith: Police call old man "nigger", were acting in good-faith.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:45 am
by Zablorg
So is Kamikaze's default position that everyone does things by the book?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:19 am
by starku
Imagine you do a job
And that job is dangerous and kind of thankless
And people attack those in your line of work for terrible crimes

I guess it makes you defensive and see everyone else as the enemy

Amusingly, exactly what's wrong with police lol

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:08 am
by Count Chocula
Don't forget cynical. Cops are cynical. Yes my family has cops in its closet. The longer they're cops, the more cynical they become and the more likely they are to assess EVERYONE as a potential threat to their health.

PS Cops don't place a lot of faith in the innate goodness of people.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:11 am
by starku
maybe that makes them least qualified to be best placed to cover up their own crimes :V

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:29 am
by Dooey Jo
on a more serious note: what the hell kind of name is "Lufia"?

luuuuufia

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:56 am
by Questor
I'm sitting in an airport lounge in Germany.

I wonder when the desire to oppress starts? Is it genetic? Will it begin calling the Teutonic parts of my ancestry the longer I stay?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:23 am
by Gands
Wow. Choccy's come out as prejudiced.

What happens next?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:26 am
by Aaron
Nothing, he hasn't broken any rules.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:46 am
by starku
Aaron wrote:Nothing, he hasn't broken any rules.
Not like it's news anyway

Surprise level at zero