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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:29 pm
by starku
But you have to be afraid

Oherwise you might listen to crazy ideas

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:32 pm
by adr-admin
i hate how 'appeasement' is a dirty word

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:38 pm
by Zod
adr wrote:i hate how 'appeasement' is a dirty word
blame the nazzys

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:38 pm
by starku
Compromise is too

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:57 pm
by Aaron
It's only dirty to some people and in some circumstances, we paid the afghan warlords to make nice with kabul but for some reason we can't with north Korea?

It's not like they even want much, and the idea that it somehow makes us look weak is laughable.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:21 pm
by Zod
Aaron wrote:It's only dirty to some people and in some circumstances, we paid the afghan warlords to make nice with kabul but for some reason we can't with north Korea?

It's not like they even want much, and the idea that it somehow makes us look weak is laughable.
it's not like north korea has any oil

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:49 pm
by Oxymoron
They are, if I'm not mistaken, very rich in minerals like magnesium or some other shit.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:09 am
by thejester
Aaron wrote:It's only dirty to some people and in some circumstances, we paid the afghan warlords to make nice with kabul but for some reason we can't with north Korea?

It's not like they even want much, and the idea that it somehow makes us look weak is laughable.
DPRK has repeatedly knocked back offers of aid - or at least deliberately compromised them - because the regime's power rests on the perception of an external threat. The US and the ROK have made it pretty clear they're happy to leave the DPRK alone and indeed give it shit as long as it knocks off nuclear weapons development...but that perversely weakens the regime so they knock back the offer, test a few ballistic missiles and kill a couple hundred south korean sailors so the perpetual conflict that props them up keeps going

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 am
by Aaron
Right, and they want nukes because?

There's also a new leader, things may not go ahead as they have been.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:33 am
by Flagg
The new boss is alot like the old boss so far.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 am
by starku
thejester wrote:
Aaron wrote:It's only dirty to some people and in some circumstances, we paid the afghan warlords to make nice with kabul but for some reason we can't with north Korea?

It's not like they even want much, and the idea that it somehow makes us look weak is laughable.
DPRK has repeatedly knocked back offers of aid - or at least deliberately compromised them - because the regime's power rests on the perception of an external threat. The US and the ROK have made it pretty clear they're happy to leave the DPRK alone and indeed give it shit as long as it knocks off nuclear weapons development...but that perversely weakens the regime so they knock back the offer, test a few ballistic missiles and kill a couple hundred south korean sailors so the perpetual conflict that props them up keeps going
America hates mirrors lol

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 am
by Aaron
Yeah, might wind up being the same for the next 50 years.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:56 am
by thejester
Aaron wrote:Right, and they want nukes because?

There's also a new leader, things may not go ahead as they have been.
because apart from the usual reasons for having nuclear weapons the whole nuclear program reinforces this dynamic and keeps the US engaged...pretty sure the US would like nothing more than to disengage from the Korean peninsular, they've been steadily withdrawing forces from there for 10+ years. A DPRK with no nukes essentially becomes a ROK and PRC problem (rightly so), a DPRK with nukes increases both the extortion potential and the external pressure

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 am
by Aaron
OK, that makes sense. Apart from having the US involved, what does that get them?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 am
by Zod
continued control over their populace?

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 am
by Aaron
Duh, right. Superpower involvement lends increased legitimacy to the illusion.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 am
by starku
Fear makes people welcome authority

It's amusing when a organization can us that to control its own people but not work it out when others are doing it

I mean that's what'd suck about beig 'a diplomat' because you can understand the situation all you want, it's the decisionmakers who make the call

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:41 am
by Phantasee
Knubble tov wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I told both of you to shut the fuck up.
I laughed when you actually did that. It's too bad that Flagg is one of the many tryhards on that forum that lace their posts with expletives to get brownie points. Complaining about that in this thread is not off topic. If you want to ban me again and further reveal your cowardice, be my guest.
Son...

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:44 am
by Phantasee
Questor wrote:ADR, it was a topic of discussion for me last week, but then, I was just a few miles away, so I'm not sure how domestic media is handling it.

There might be something on the gulf times website.
fucking bernie ecclestone

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:37 am
by adr-admin
work pisses me off

so the millionaire with a history of investing in companies like we have complains the site sometimes "makes" you register twice (citing someone who came back to the site after a month away...)

this to me means the log in link needs to be a lot more obvious like ACTUALLY ON THE HOME PAGE IN THE OPEN SOMEWHERE


but to the decision maker it means we need to bury the log in link under a stupid mouse hover like a motherfucking easter egg



oh thank god he changed his mind


but this easter egg hunt UI bullshit is why i'm looking at government mortgage insurance programs instead of bringing a briefcase of cash to buy my house

god damn it right decisions need to start being made BEFORE the rich people get frustrated

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:02 am
by Losonti Tokash
Knubble tov wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I told both of you to shut the fuck up.
I laughed when you actually did that. It's too bad that Flagg is one of the many tryhards on that forum that lace their posts with expletives to get brownie points. Complaining about that in this thread is not off topic. If you want to ban me again and further reveal your cowardice, be my guest.

i ain't really been around for a while

but what the fuck is this

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:24 am
by Zod
Losonti Tokash wrote:
Knubble tov wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I told both of you to shut the fuck up.
I laughed when you actually did that. It's too bad that Flagg is one of the many tryhards on that forum that lace their posts with expletives to get brownie points. Complaining about that in this thread is not off topic. If you want to ban me again and further reveal your cowardice, be my guest.

i ain't really been around for a while

but what the fuck is this
lover's quarrel

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:34 am
by Flagg
Losonti Tokash wrote:
Knubble tov wrote:
Phantasee wrote:I told both of you to shut the fuck up.
I laughed when you actually did that. It's too bad that Flagg is one of the many tryhards on that forum that lace their posts with expletives to get brownie points. Complaining about that in this thread is not off topic. If you want to ban me again and further reveal your cowardice, be my guest.

i ain't really been around for a while

but what the fuck is this

He's is mad because I called him names like 6 months ago, so now he goes around on both boards harassing me. It's pretty funny.

Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:10 am
by timmy
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Re: Godammed SDN

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:08 am
by Oxymoron
timmy wrote:[gif]
I fucking love that video.