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Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:14 am
by uraniun235
Aaron wrote:That requires lonestar to be in on it, no dice.
Maybe Mikes a closet racist.
Maybe, but I think it's more his prejudice against poor people.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 am
by Oxymoron
Well, if I get right what I heard here and there, if is body-type is Asian, culturally he is very Canadian ; and I have myself encountered people who while claiming they are enlightened and tolerant, show racist attitudes, most of the time without even acknowledging it to themselves.
Racist to whom, I don't know. But I think it his plausible that he could have prejudices toward certain categories of people. Given his general attitude toward people he disagree with, and his general disdain of "stupid" people, there's only a few and easy mental leaps that could lead to racism.
TL;DR : I don't say that I think he is a closet racist. I just say I wouldn't have much difficulties believing it from personal experiences.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 am
by Oxymoron
uraniun235 wrote:Maybe, but I think it's more his prejudice against poor people.
Yeah, that.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:27 am
by Agent Bert Macklin
Flagg, you do know that someone can be a bigot towards the mentally handicapped regardless of the definition you quoted, right? I could be intolerant of the special treatment these people get via government assistance. I could hate the tax payer money being used to integrate their classes into public schools because they deserve to be separated from the normal students. That's bigotry and certainly falls under the definition of "bigot."
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:29 am
by Flagg
Knubble tov wrote:Flagg, you do know that someone can be a bigot towards the mentally handicapped regardless of the definition you quoted, right? I could be intolerant of the special treatment these people get via government assistance. I could hate the tax payer money being used to integrate their classes into public schools because they deserve to be separated from the normal students. That's bigotry and certainly falls under the definition of "bigot."
You're right, my painkillers are fucking with me.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:30 am
by Losonti Tokash
Knubble tov wrote:Flagg, you do know that someone can be a bigot towards the mentally handicapped regardless of the definition you quoted, right? I could be intolerant of the special treatment these people get via government assistance. I could hate the tax payer money being used to integrate their classes into public schools because they deserve to be separated from the normal students. That's bigotry and certainly falls under the definition of "bigot."
is this your actual opinion
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:31 am
by Agent Bert Macklin
Losonti Tokash wrote:Knubble tov wrote:Flagg, you do know that someone can be a bigot towards the mentally handicapped regardless of the definition you quoted, right? I could be intolerant of the special treatment these people get via government assistance. I could hate the tax payer money being used to integrate their classes into public schools because they deserve to be separated from the normal students. That's bigotry and certainly falls under the definition of "bigot."
is this your actual opinion
Of course not. None of the examples are my opinions. I knew someone in high school who believed this and I decided to invoke them to show Flagg's lapse in logic.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:33 am
by Losonti Tokash
sorry dude i'm just stressed out today and literally was told that last week
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:40 am
by Akhlut
I just loved how pissed off Flagg was when people were asking him if he literally meant that someone actually had a developmental disability (ie, was "I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP"), yet, he himself resorted to extreme pedantry to defend his colloquial use of it as an insult.
Truly, SDNet is the internet's go-to place for pedantry. The Intellectual Crucible burns away anything that isn't an argument about semantics, definitions, or the like.
uraniun235 wrote:Maybe, but I think it's more his prejudice against poor people.
Did you know that unions are fucking awful, man? Especially the UAW. I'm glad to know that the Union my mom is a part of isn't actually trying to keep her and her coworkers from getting fired over any accidental injuries, but is instead just there to shit on management and let the "workers" sit and eat bon-bons all day for $45/hr!
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:42 am
by Flagg
I just don't see the word retard as a bigoted slur.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:42 am
by Aaron
Must be why no cars get built.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:48 am
by Losonti Tokash
Flagg wrote:I just don't see the word retard as a bigoted slur.
Great, you're an asshole! You don't get to decide.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:49 am
by Flagg
Losonti Tokash wrote:Flagg wrote:I just don't see the word retard as a bigoted slur.
Great, you're an asshole! You don't get to decide.
Neither do you miss manners.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:49 am
by RogueIce
Aaron wrote:Must be why no cars get built.
They killed the Crown Vic because of the unions.
Mr.Coffee wrote:Phantasee wrote:Fgalkin isn't a mod tho
Well, he was enough of one to edit dipstick's picture in that thread... Or he has enough pull to get someone else to do it for him which is essentially the same thing.
Anyways, his response "Size matters, hurr hurr..."
You should point out that Mike's av is Yoda and then quote "Size matters not" and see what happens.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:51 am
by Oxymoron
Akhlut wrote:Did you know that unions are fucking awful, man? Especially the UAW. I'm glad to know that the Union my mom is a part of isn't actually trying to keep her and her coworkers from getting fired over any accidental injuries, but is instead just there to shit on management and let the "workers" sit and eat bon-bons all day for $45/hr!
Gawd. I can't stand any kind of people spouting these kind of Anti-Unions bullshit.
Sure, Unions aren't perfect and are far too often subject to abject political machinations going against the interest of the workers themselves ; but without them workers would still be working more than 12 hours a day 6 or 7 days per week, without any kind of paid vacation, medical coverage or social safety net.
Fucking short-sighted assholes.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:53 am
by Aaron
Flagg wrote:Losonti Tokash wrote:Flagg wrote:I just don't see the word retard as a bigoted slur.
Great, you're an asshole! You don't get to decide.
Neither do you miss manners.
God, shut the fuck up. Heaven forbid that people treat others with a bit of courtesy, that's why nothing ever gets agreed on at TEO, posturing and insults are more important then discussion.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:55 am
by starku
mockery of stupid people = do whatever you want lol
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:58 am
by Akhlut
Stupid being, you know, whatever I disagree with at the time.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:02 am
by Oxymoron
Dang people.. Is that so fucking hard to be courteous to each other ? Have you no goddamn education ?
I get some are stressed out and others have anger management issues but it does not justify lashing at each other in an uncivilized manner. "Miss manner" is one thing, acting like pricks is another.
If you can't even get to discuss with someone without being aggressive jerks maybe you should consider just shutting up ?
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:03 am
by Flagg
Aaron wrote:Flagg wrote:Losonti Tokash wrote:Flagg wrote:I just don't see the word retard as a bigoted slur.
Great, you're an asshole! You don't get to decide.
Neither do you miss manners.
God, shut the fuck up. Heaven forbid that people treat others with a bit of courtesy, that's why nothing ever gets agreed on at TEO, posturing and insults are more important then discussion.
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:04 am
by Shroom Man 777
look man we have to be as literal-minded as possible or the demons of figurative language will graft metaphors onto our eyes
i love you guys
Truly, SDNet is the internet's go-to place for pedantry. The Intellectual Crucible burns away anything that isn't an argument about semantics, definitions, or the like.
ye-ah
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:04 am
by Bakustra
remember that teo was founded by people who believed that it was impossible to have moderation that fomented discussion rather than curtailing it
this explains so much about the moderation and administration style
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:04 am
by Losonti Tokash
i'm not polite to people who use racial or homophobic slurs, i'm not going to make an exception for something just as bad because it's not seen as a big deal, especially in the face of willful ignorance and stubborn pedantry
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:05 am
by Akhlut
Fuck you and your miss manners bullshit, jerkface. I can objectively prove that that miss manners shitarama is shit and cuntburgers. Wanna debate? (directed towards Oxymoron, btw)
Re: Godammed SDN
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:07 am
by Shroom Man 777
well why do folks go every day to a dull ass psychophysioemotionospiritually stunted place to find worthless bullshit to get riled up at fatsos and engage in pages of uselessness just to stroke the ego and huff and puff and prove who's the bigger tryhard blowhard?
the same reason why some folks can't communicate like decent folks is the same reason why they love going to teo to fuck around or to prattle like blowhards or act big or pose around or shit
they've got something fundamentally wrong or inadequate or incomplete or broken or just stunted and teo - or acting like a fatso inside or outside teo - is a crutch for these guise