Godammed SDN

[Zod]

why the hell is your store searching through people's pants or grabbing people

i didn't work security and this was like 8 years ago

beats me

[Flagg]

why the hell is your store searching through people's pants or grabbing people

Legally you can if you see them doing it on video. As long as it's in the store, anyway.

[adr-admin]

It's so painful to see people try to talk about themes on teo.

[Aaron]

I get a mental image of the Swedish Chef.

"Spergy, spergy, spergy."

[Veef]

news flash

people on macrossworld are whiny, dumb, and entitled

like for the past ten years

[starku]

It's so painful to see people try to talk about themes on teo.

What's funny is that thread where 40k fans admit 'yeah these novels all suck'

[Zod]

It's so painful to see people try to talk about themes on teo.

What's funny is that thread where 40k fans admit 'yeah these novels all suck'

makes me glad i only care about the 40k games

[Aaron]

It's so painful to see people try to talk about themes on teo.

What's funny is that thread where 40k fans admit 'yeah these novels all suck'

Man there are a lot of shit 40k novels, but the Inquisition War is literally unreadable.

[starku]

When someone singles out some 40k novels to have flat characters


I gotta imagine they're pretty damn flat

[Aaron]

Yeah, novels with actual fleshed out characters are pretty few. Probably count them on one hand.

[Zod]

Yeah, novels with actual fleshed out characters are pretty few. Probably count them on one hand.

are the novels basically space marines spouting off one-liners?

[Aaron]

Some.

Novels like Eisenhorn and The Last Chancers have actual characters who develop over the story but something like Blood Gorgons is just "kill, smartass comment, kill"

Depends on the author.

[adr-admin]

wait wait wait

are the readers supposed to take it seriously

or is it trying to be like army of darkness

[Aaron]

40k? I don't but lots do.

[starku]

tbh i don't think there is a single vision anymore

in the 90s it was obviously being played for laughs

these days i think guys who write them are guys who took them too seriously in the 90s

so it's obsessive fatties writing books that are FOR SERIOUS in a setting about soccer hooligans killing the police

[Bakustra]

P-p-p-purnell.

As if Europeans or academics were less critical of the United States in the 1990s. I remember the decade very well, and all the same criticisms tossed around about Iraq were tossed around every time the United States has intervened somewhere. You might as well say Vietnam destroyed American credibility as say Iraq did. Of course, one might as well say the Spanish-American War did, or the Mexican-American War. Iraq gave a pretext for people already inclined to be hypercritical and suspicious of everything the United States does and represents... to be hypercritical and suspicious of everything the United States does and represents.

As far as Iraq being unique, I beg to differ. The intervention in Kosovo was at least as misguided, had absolutely no international sanction outside the participants, and has turned into a farce that facilitated a much more complete ethnic cleansing. As for civilian deaths, how many were killed in Chechnya by Russian forces who deliberately adopted a strategy designed to cause collateral damage? Did Germany stop to even ask that before signing oil and gas deals with Vladimir Putin? Has Germany done a thing to hold Iran accountable for the murders that its own courts have accused it of abetting, even as you whine about the "extrajudicial murder" of al-Awlaki and Osama bin-Laden?

Fundamentally going into Iraq was a bad idea, but when even Shroom is willing to concede it was precisely that, bad policy caused by tunnel vision rather deliberate deceit, maybe you should reconsider your own personal narrative about it? Or would not being able to sagely nod when your fellow Teutonic professors go off on some rambling monologue that amounts to "Bush lied to steal oil and kill brown people and Americans are savages" hurt your social standing too much?

There is no sincere criticism of the USA, it's all just groupthink from Euro-commies and the.... French. Also, no European can criticize the US about anything.

[Zod]

"how dare you criticize us you're not perfect either wah wah wah"

[Bakustra]

i wonder why all the focus on europeans

like do you think some german girl shot him down at a bar once or something

(granted i am assuming he isn't a complete shut-in)

[starku]

it's pretty funny right

because post gulf war coalitiion saving the world the US had a massive upswing of prestige and trust

ask people who were kids around that time (like all of you guys probably)

the cynicism only came back later with their really poorly advised interventions into africa and the balkans

[Aaron]

I hear a lot of criticism about Kosovo over there, but I don't recall seeing evidence. And I want to, I was involved with the battlegroup that went over...and I didn't sign up to play colonial asshole.

Yeah, I remember the positive attitude everyone had after thr gulf.

[starku]

putting aside bad things america might have done in kosovo

it was a messy situation with a bunch of shitheads killing each other

a totally different kettle of fish to evil saddamn invading peaceful kuwait

from a PR standpoint

[Zod]

it's pretty funny right

because post gulf war coalitiion saving the world the US had a massive upswing of prestige and trust

ask people who were kids around that time (like all of you guys probably)

the cynicism only came back later with their really poorly advised interventions into africa and the balkans

about the only memories i have of the gulf was being annoyed at how it kept interrupting my tv shows

[Aaron]

Yeah, no good guys in the balkan wars

[zhaktronz]

The post desert storm optimism really reflects in the tv shows and movies of the time too.

Take sg1 for instance; it's all about the power of freedom and democracy defeating the evil Communists Gould.

Compare that with post 9/11 media and there's a really strong change towards AMERICA NEVER FORGET.

[Zod]

The post desert storm optimism really reflects in the tv shows and movies of the time too.

Take sg1 for instance; it's all about the power of freedom and democracy defeating the evil Communists Gould.

Compare that with post 9/11 media and there's a really strong change towards AMERICA NEVER FORGET.

if pearl harbor is any indicator we might stop giving as much of a shit once everyone who lived through it starts dying off