Godammed SDN

[Zod]

I just see it as too much of a black-and-white view on things, not all religion is bad even if it is behind a lot of nasty shit in history. I agree that offering church-time instead of jail-time is both illegal preferential treatment of Christian prisoners, and kind of demeaning to those who view themselves as 'genuine' Christians because it will just encourage non-Christians to fake it for their own benefit. On the other hand, stating that it give the church their own 'pet thugs' is just I'M A JUGGALO WOOP WOOP and too far in the other direction. I'd fully support a church-run community service alternative to jail time for non-violent offenders, so long as it's regulated to make sure there's no unreasonable coercion/conversion attempts taking place.

This is the problem I have with it: "Hey, as part of your service we need you to tithe 10% of your income to our church. Otherwise we're going to report that you failed in your service and you'll go back to jail."

Maybe some wouldn't be quite that blatant about it, but stuff like that isn't exactly an unreasonable concern.

[darthdavid]

I'd fully support a church-run community service alternative to jail time for non-violent offenders, so long as it's regulated to make sure there's no unreasonable coercion/conversion attempts taking place.

I wouldn't have a problem with something like that, so long as it was one of several options given as alternative sentencing and at least one of the others was secular in nature.

[Veef]

I actually get the same vibes trying to debate them on this that I get from conspiracy theorists and creationists:

as I said to Amoebamang, we should start calling Jim and his ilk priests of the prequels or Preistquels if you will.

Maybe Prequepulicans

or Prequelcrats

Prequeltarians?

[Veef]

also if people can't appreciate a skit in where George Lucas attempts to murder two people with a copy of Howard the Duck that has a big fuse sticking out of it then I don't know what happened to this internet

[adr-admin]

"So going by THAT logic, I can only guess that Luke and Han shooting up Stormtroopers or TIE fighters is not dramatic. "

umm, it's not, is it? tbh i don't really understand the definition of drama

[Veef]

they don't understand that having actors wave glowsticks at useless CGI robots for an hour is dull

also why don't Gin and Obi just force push everything

or like when Obi was behind the force field why didn't he force push Ray Park

they don't have force anchors or anything cause Ray Park was all like TALK TO THE HAND force push to Obi

[RogueIce]

precog

I think that's the answer to anything related to Jedi, right?

[Zod]

precog

I think that's the answer to anything related to Jedi, right?

And the only times it doesn't work is because of the darkside. It's totally not because Jedi are fallible.

[Djinnkitty83]

How long has it been since the last 'Jedi vs. Flash' thread there?

[Black_Mage]

How long has it been since the last 'Jedi vs. Flash' thread there?

Not fucking long enough.

[Nietzslime]

isn't flash like a timelord now

lolol dc reboot

[Dooey Jo]

they don't understand that having actors wave glowsticks at useless CGI robots for an hour is dull

you should make an eight minute youtube video explaining this maybe then they will get it



adamantly defending a movie on the internet sure is pretty reTHUGlican

i mean it's not like every single issue on the whole internet is "resolved" by two or more camps yelling at each other and eventually finding something better to do, then doing it all over again some time later

it sure is the best way to discover the truth of any matter

or it would be if the other guys weren't such dumb fucks

[Veef]

precog and jedi is just as bad as Batman and prep time

supposedly Palpatine's precog let him know that

Gin and Obi would escape and meet up despite going in separate ships (the movie does not say why at all)

run into Jar Jar and ride a sub

get the Queen off planet

have the Queen's ship get hit so they have to go to Tatooine (is Naboo on the outer rim too?)

go to the right junk shop (IT WAS DESTINY)

Jake Lloyd wins the wacky races

and then everything else up until the end of ROTS




also i have a weird idea

because Ray Park needs to be in less shitty movies (king of fighters lol) maybe instead of old guy and coughing robot they should have made Ray Park the main bad Jedi in all three movies except more borgified each time (i know there's a dumb EU comic about this)

you know kind of parallel Whinikin's fall by showing what happens to darksiders

[xon]

So apparently I'm a "thieving piece of shit" just because I dare to express a non-mainstream view about copyright laws.

[Zod]

So apparently I'm a "thieving piece of shit" just because I dare to express a non-mainstream view about copyright laws.

Has Broomstick reminded everyone that someone plagiarized one of her stories yet?

[adr-admin]

Wow, there's a lot of shit in that thread.

I'm all for the real world (and I generally enjoy Broomstick's posts more than most people on the site), but blargh.


A fun thing on copyright: I take two opposite positions on it. On one hand is the legal or business viewpoint where I spend a lot of time defending it. It's there now, so we can see how and why it works the way it does.

On the other hand, I don't think copyright has a place in utopia; I'd like to see it significantly changed.


I'm sure this comes off as contrarian trolling, but whatever.

[xon]

Has Broomstick reminded everyone that someone plagiarized one of her stories yet?

I kinda assumed that given we where talking about p2p filesharing copyright violation her sly example of being a creative writer impacted by it had some actual relevents.

What a silly assuption.

[Stofsk]

broomstick is one of the biggest reasons why i wish SDN had an ignore function

[xon]

Wow, there's a lot of shit in that thread.

I got trolled hard.

A fun thing on copyright: I take two opposite positions on it. On one hand is the legal or business viewpoint where I spend a lot of time defending it. It's there now, so we can see how and why it works the way it does.

Oh there are real and good reasons for copyright to exist. The only position I tried to argued was that digital copyright is a very different animal to copyright of say books or manuscripts.

[Zod]

i'm convinced that copyright arguments are about as close to the bottom of the barrel on the internet as you can get

about the only thing that separates SDN from the rest of the internet as far as copyright stuff goes is the lack of prison rape fantasies

[xon]

I had Dalton explode at me when I pointed out running a donation paid for fanfiction library is legally very dubious to illegal due to copyright issues.

Copyright issues really make a lot of people go so very silly.

[adr-admin]

I love the self-learning hate in that thread.

[adr-admin]

Oh yeah, I got a Bizspark subscription from Microsoft a while ago. (they got my name and address through a The Daily WTF.com survey... or was it worsethanfailure.com at the time... whatever same site. Reading blogs is totally good for me.)

But yeah, it's basically "take everything we've ever made (except games), as much as you want, for three years. Then toss us a couple hundred bucks at the end and we'll call it even".


WHY WOULD THEY DO SUCH A THING?

[adr-admin]

lol, the other side of that thread is bullshit too. Thanas' crap, especially.

EDIT: oh good, simon_jester at least posted the passage from the link that throws doubt into it. /edit


For instance, this one is a good example:

"Norwegian Institutes of Business says that people downloading infringing music also buy about 10 times more music than their law-abiding counterparts. "

Of course they do - those people listen to a lot of music, regardless of the source. The link actually says this:

"It might be safer to assume that those who pirate a lot of songs as well as regularly purchase a hefty number of tunes are people who really love music."



The one he edited in:

"However, our analysis of the Canadian P2P file-sharing subpopulation suggests that there is a strong positive relationship between P2P file-sharing and CD purchasing. That is, among Canadians actually engaged in it, P2P file-sharing increases CD purchasing. "

That doesn't follow: a positive relationship does not imply a cause - it's the same thing that first example discussed. The other conclusion from that link was no impact (most likely, the positive and negative effects balanced out. For every person who went with the cheaper competitor - piracy ought to simply be viewed as a competitor - the marketing effect got someone else to purchase.)



Bullshit arguments annoy me far more than disagreeable conclusions.

[Zod]

otoh studies going back as far as 2004 show that the impact of file sharing on cd sales is effectively nil, whether it be positive or negative

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027_3-5181562.html

For the study, released Monday, researchers at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina tracked music downloads over 17 weeks in 2002, matching data on file transfers with actual market performance of the songs and albums being downloaded. Even high levels of file-swapping seemed to translate into an effect on album sales that was "statistically indistinguishable from zero," they wrote.

"We find that file sharing has only had a limited effect on record sales," the study's authors wrote. "While downloads occur on a vast scale, most users are likely individuals who would not have bought the album even in the absence of file sharing."

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027_3-518156 ... z1ZAZSKMIU