I made it a point of playing it down as not a big deal, and I don't have any plans to bring it up again unless she does. But the reaction was still more positive than I expected.Infinity Biscuit wrote:Not to burst your bubble but there's a pretty reasonable chance that was just her way of defusing the situation more gently than "jesus christ what the fuck"
Booze and a section to sit in.Aaron wrote:So whats the VIP get you?
Thing is? I'm not going to just drop this sort of thing on any random girl and hope for results. I only dropped it at all because I've known this particular girl for a few months now, we're on pretty friendly terms and it managed to flow into the conversation.RyanThunder wrote:Man I love that. On the one hand you have all these people telling you to grow a spine if you want to get laid. On the other hand you have all these other people telling you that doing anything that growing a spine might enable you to do is just creepy, even though people do it all the time and a large enough subset of women obviously don't think it's creepy at all. Oh and of course they bitch at you without offering any sort of alternative that isn't just insipid nonsense that we all know doesn't work.
See the problem is you automatically assume the worse.Infinity Biscuit wrote:Also zod you might want to work on you descriptions better 'cause when I think "blatantly propositioned a friend" I figure you mean something a bit more than a flirty joke
You just assume that I'm doing anything creepy.Infinity Biscuit wrote:If "growing a spine" does nothing but enable you to finally attempt all the creepy behavior you've been holding off on then the problem may not be the people telling you to get a spine.
Well I'll try to be less smug, but the omniscience will be a bit of a chorePS ryan if you want people to give you meaningful advice on how to improve your life maybe start by not being a smug all-knowing jackass
For sure. Dont misunderstand me btw, I don't think that a girl is obligated to sleep with me if I do xyz or anything like that. I dislike the attitude people like IB were giving Zod. Like "well she didn't sleep with you so she probably thinks you're creepy and anything you think is positive that isn't a 'yes please fuck me right here' is probably her just trying to get the hell away from you." then they just completely gloss over the fact that Zod had the courage to actually ask instead of... Whatever passive-aggressive, obtuse indirection they think he should do.Aaron wrote:Lol, turns out different people can get away with using different approaches.
It's a matter of knowing your audience. If I know a girl well enough to realize she'd probably take that sort of thing with a good sense of humor then I'll drop it in, but if it's someone I just know on a casual basis from work or whatever then probably not. Besides, getting sex wasn't the point. The point was to communicate interest without being needy or desperate about it.RyanThunder wrote:For sure. Dont misunderstand me btw, I don't think that a girl is obligated to sleep with me if I do xyz or anything like that. I dislike the attitude people like IB were giving Zod. Like "well she didn't sleep with you so she probably thinks you're creepy and anything you think is positive that isn't a 'yes please fuck me right here' is probably her just trying to get the hell away from you." then they just completely gloss over the fact that you had the courage to actually ask instead of... Whatever passive-aggressive, obtuse indirection they think you should do.Aaron wrote:Lol, turns out different people can get away with using different approaches.
It helps that a lot of women I know tend to have a more sex-positive mindset.Phantasee wrote:I think the part that bugs me is the casual discussion of it. I've never been comfortable with that. Especially since in most situations with "the boys" everyone is exaggerating anyway.
