Yeah but with Chocs it's not exactly a dialogue. At best you get more insight into his feelings, which I guess is superior to just yelling at him, but his ability to tune out everything he doesn't want to believe is pretty amazing.Oxymoron wrote:In my opinion, it's because here there's no tension of trying to convert each other to our respective "ideals". I mean, Chocs and me have radically different political views and we're still able to discuss things together without having it turn into a turd-fight, because we don't try to shove our beliefs down each others throat.
That kind of help the general atmosphere of open dialog I'd say.
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Chocs is just annoying when he's trolling, otherwise he's an OK guy. Dumb, but OK. Marina is more entertaining. Mostly because she's not an idiot even when she says idiotic things. Which is less frequent these days.
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I'm surprised people still react in the usual way to Marina, even after she admitted that she just says whatever she thinks will get a reaction during the old boys senate debacle.
Intellectual crucible.
Intellectual crucible.
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Because no matter how correct they may be, you may be assured that people will usually be holding their beliefs for kneejerk reasons rather than sincerely thought out ones, so instead of providing rational objections, will flip out and get angry when asked to think about what they believe... Even though if they didn't flip out, they could easily rationally justify it.
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Two more weeks and I'm out of this shithole. Can't wait to get back to civilization.
People in glass trousers shouldn't shit bricks.
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Are you still in China?
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mediawiki and WYSIWYGevilsoup wrote:Zod, no, I haven't
I'll have to look into that
my instinct is that I'll run into a similar problem, just switching bbcode for mediawiki or whatever... but maybe someone has written a wiki with WYSIWYG capabilities
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My phone has just informed me that I am expected at work at 6:00am tomorrow...
And that I'm booked, with two 2 hour free blocks, until 1:30am thursday.
Why was that volunteer gig a good idea?
And that I'm booked, with two 2 hour free blocks, until 1:30am thursday.
Why was that volunteer gig a good idea?
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Contract ends on the 3rd, then I'm flying back after the weekend. I miss proper internet and the scent of natural things.Aaron wrote:Are you still in China?
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It's pretty funny when I'm doing get out the vote stuff and one of our candidates shows up on my list.
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Hey Los just wanted to say the effort you put into all that sort of stuff is really inspiring
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Well, you know. Better use of my time than video games or complaining about politicians on SDN.
But thank you.
But thank you.
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What is this, the fucking matrix?magic princess wrote:I love how it's easier to have a reasoned discussion about things like Foucault and philosophy and the differences in modalities of social organisation here than on TEO.
"Is it not part of being erotically experienced, however, to know that the desire to enter the other can lead one to the wrong entrance?" - Peter Sloterdijk
"Ethics is endless, the law is terminal." - Paul Mann
"Ethics is endless, the law is terminal." - Paul Mann
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I can't see why not?
"also it really shits my mum so it's a good way of winding her up"
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Let's not say things we can't take back.Losonti Tokash wrote:Better use of my time than video games
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Well, just got done. 10:45 is better than 1:30, right?Questor wrote:My phone has just informed me that I am expected at work at 6:00am tomorrow...
And that I'm booked, with two 2 hour free blocks, until 1:30am thursday.
Why was that volunteer gig a good idea?
The day turned out to be very exciting, from a personal and professional standpoint.
Is it possible to become exhausted by the amount of fun I'm having?
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So, the morning after going to a Rammstein concert.
Lots of explosions, fire and screams.
That was good.
Lots of explosions, fire and screams.
That was good.
No.
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I hate everybody in my buidling. Fucking feckless marketeer hipsters. Hsven't had an intelligent conversation in two months.
People in glass trousers shouldn't shit bricks.
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While going to work just after eating lunch, I saw an old man looking to be in his mid-sixties, collapsed on a bench next to the supermarket's parking lot, unmoving.
Worried that he might be slightly deceased, I went up to him, and asked i he was okay.
The guy shot up, looking straight at me, drool dripping from his mouth.
"S'okay ! Er'thing is good ! There's no problem !"
That's when I saw that there was an open brick of cheap red wine right next to him on the bench.
And he kept repeating that "there's no problem, there's no problem"
Seeing he was alive and I'm not a model citizen, I acknowledged him, told him to have a good day, and went my way.
"there's no problem"
I am not quite convinced...
Worried that he might be slightly deceased, I went up to him, and asked i he was okay.
The guy shot up, looking straight at me, drool dripping from his mouth.
"S'okay ! Er'thing is good ! There's no problem !"
That's when I saw that there was an open brick of cheap red wine right next to him on the bench.
And he kept repeating that "there's no problem, there's no problem"
Seeing he was alive and I'm not a model citizen, I acknowledged him, told him to have a good day, and went my way.
"there's no problem"
I am not quite convinced...
No.
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Not much you personally can do in that situation. But you checked on him when most people would have ignored him, and that is something to be praised.
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in my brain universe there's a public service announcement that shows some problem and a bunch of people see it and say "i'm sure somebody will take care of it"
and the problem never gets solved and it ends with the voice over saying "that somebody is YOU"
and the problem never gets solved and it ends with the voice over saying "that somebody is YOU"
In the name of the moon, I will punish you!
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What shocked me is that he kept repeating "There's no problem"
Even as I was going away to catch my tram, on the other side of the street, he kept repeating at my attention, almost screaming "There's no problem ! Everything is fine !"
It was, like... Some kind of drunken mantra of reality-denying. As if someone kept repeating that "2 + 2 = 5" and deluded themselves into thinking it was true and correct, and trying to convince others that they were right...
I dunno...
I hate how drugs can destroy the weakest members of society.
Even as I was going away to catch my tram, on the other side of the street, he kept repeating at my attention, almost screaming "There's no problem ! Everything is fine !"
It was, like... Some kind of drunken mantra of reality-denying. As if someone kept repeating that "2 + 2 = 5" and deluded themselves into thinking it was true and correct, and trying to convince others that they were right...
I dunno...
I hate how drugs can destroy the weakest members of society.
No.
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DON'T PANICOxymoron wrote:What shocked me is that he kept repeating "There's no problem"
Even as I was going away to catch my tram, on the other side of the street, he kept repeating at my attention, almost screaming "There's no problem ! Everything is fine !"
Ralin wrote:Finally I realized that when Walker fights the Satanic ponies I need to mention how his 'lower horn' is glowing and sparkling as it draws in and focuses Equestria's ambient magic.
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timmy wrote:I can't see why not?
In what way is the history of sexuality, of all things, related to the discussion at hand?
"Is it not part of being erotically experienced, however, to know that the desire to enter the other can lead one to the wrong entrance?" - Peter Sloterdijk
"Ethics is endless, the law is terminal." - Paul Mann
"Ethics is endless, the law is terminal." - Paul Mann
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To the person I am corresponding with at software support,
How hard is it to understand that having a field that is not editable present with a drop down that changes IS A BUG!!!
It doesn't matter if you present the user with an error message that references SQL. Users don't read error messages, and even if they would, the target audience for your application thinks SQL is some kind of mystic enchantment that people like me utter over chicken entrails in order to extract data. If you allow them to change something they generally think that they have changed them, even if they can't. Then they call me.
I am not some country bumpkin hired off the street. I am fully conversant in your application, and I know the difference between a bug report and a feature request. Please do ,me the curtesy of not treating me like an overexcited data entry clerk please.
Thanks,
The guy who will be bringing this exchange up at the next advisory meeting (where I talk to your head of programming and company owner directly)
How hard is it to understand that having a field that is not editable present with a drop down that changes IS A BUG!!!
It doesn't matter if you present the user with an error message that references SQL. Users don't read error messages, and even if they would, the target audience for your application thinks SQL is some kind of mystic enchantment that people like me utter over chicken entrails in order to extract data. If you allow them to change something they generally think that they have changed them, even if they can't. Then they call me.
I am not some country bumpkin hired off the street. I am fully conversant in your application, and I know the difference between a bug report and a feature request. Please do ,me the curtesy of not treating me like an overexcited data entry clerk please.
Thanks,
The guy who will be bringing this exchange up at the next advisory meeting (where I talk to your head of programming and company owner directly)