Godammed SDN

[Aaron]

Well ya, their ammo is free.

[Civil War Man]

Is it expecting to much from people with no relevant experiance to understand that professional troops miss all the time and that the Stormies accuracy is probably equivilant? You don't need to resorg to bullshit about broken blasters, covaluted escape plots, etc.

And even when you account for human error and other common things that would negatively impact one's accuracy like visibility, I remember hearing that some soldiers will hold their fire or intentionally miss their target because they are not particularly comfortable with the idea of actually killing someone.

So combing poor visibility, human error, and some green recruits or conscripts, and you'd probably have pretty low accuracy.

[Aaron]

Yeah that was a big problem up until Vietnam IIRC when simple techniques like putting a man with a face on the target upped the rate to above 90%.

^--Part of the reason why after you get out lots of guys have major issues readjusting to being a civvie.

[Veef]

like Sgt. James at the end of Hurt Locker

rambling on about all the bombs that nearly killed him while his wife ignores him

[Director of Celestial Intelligence]

Yeah that was a big problem up until Vietnam IIRC when simple techniques like putting a man with a face on the target upped the rate to above 90%.

^--Part of the reason why after you get out lots of guys have major issues readjusting to being a civvie.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that in 'On Killing', in WW2 about 50% of all troops would just shoot above their targetto avoid killing them, by Vietnam we'd upped it to 75%, by the Persian Gulf it was 90%.

[Veef]

but stormtroopers are super elite they were intentionally missing Luke and company so they could escape and lead the death star to the rebel base

they died knowing their plastic armor would never protect them

[Sandman]

I'm reckoning they were just thanking their lucky stars that their opponents were humans with blasters.

I mean, teddy-bears with arrows and stones and we're talking some serious threats here.

[thejester]

it's funny, cause the only reason there needs to be such a vigorous and ridiculous defence of the stormtroopers at endor is because of the mechanics of verse debating, where tiny slivers of evidence are taken as being representative

[Veef]

What happened to all those other commandos that were accompanying Luke and co. in the forests of Canada?

[adr-admin]

they showed them a couple more times

they were captured

then ran into the woods

i'm not sure if they were shown again after that or not

[Veef]

maybe they joined the cast of Ewoks

are those movies canon

[zhaktronz]

one of them was shown on the roof of the bunker during the battle

[Civil War Man]

The only reasonable assumption is that they were all eaten by the Ewoks, as were all of the Stormtroopers captured and killed in the battle.

I mean magic was the only thing that prevented them from eating the main characters, and Luke is unable to return to stop them until long after the battle is over.

[Veef]

Well the Ewoks did have all those Imperial helmets at the end celebration

must've had a feast

[adr-admin]

me on SOPA:


Here's a novel idea: get a fucking job, and maybe you could buy the content honestly.

[Zod]

me on SOPA:


Here's a novel idea: get a fucking job, and maybe you could buy the content honestly.

if only the media industry was actually honest

sending takedown notices for content they don't actually hold the rights to shows they're more than happy to abuse this kind of law

[adr-admin]

then you sue them back and have them charged with perjury

though rollign back the DMCA's protection is something i'm iffy about

the dmca rox

[Zod]

then you sue them back and have them charged with perjury

though rollign back the DMCA's protection is something i'm iffy about

the dmca rox

i'd rather not have pointless legislation that does nothing more than make it easy for the media industry to clamp down on the internet

lawsuits are expensive if you don't have a big warchest already

[adr-admin]

my give-a-shit meter remains at zero

regardless i'm thinking about posting this on sdn

I love the way people get all worked up over trivial, irrelevant shit like this, but indefinite detention? Arbitrary assassinations? Perpetual war? Who gives a shit, we're only talking about lives there. Illegal online videos are at stake here!!!!


i'll prolly be called a troll again tho.

but seriously compare that thread with thanas' thread about the recent defense thing

[adr-admin]

War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all

War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

Ohhh, war, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives

War means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
And lose their lives

I said, war, huh
Good God, y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

War, it ain't nothing
But a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Ooooh, war
It's an enemy to all mankind
The point of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest
Within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die
Aaaaah, war-huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it, say it, say it
War, huh
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, it's got one friend
That's the undertaker
Ooooh, war, has shattered
Many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much to short and precious
To spend fighting wars these days
War can't give life
It can only take it away

Ooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

Ooooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
You tell me
Say it, say it, say it, say it

War, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Stand up and shout it
Nothing

[adr-admin]

i totally just infringed on their copyright lolzzzzzz

[Zod]

my give-a-shit meter remains at zero

regardless i'm thinking about posting this on sdn

I love the way people get all worked up over trivial, irrelevant shit like this, but indefinite detention? Arbitrary assassinations? Perpetual war? Who gives a shit, we're only talking about lives there. Illegal online videos are at stake here!!!!


i'll prolly be called a troll again tho.

but seriously compare that thread with thanas' thread about the recent defense thing

i'm pretty sure it's less 'illegal videos' and more 'anything that happens to share certain words with automated search tools'


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201111 ... ices.shtml

[adr-admin]

"There should be fines for false claim of copyright. "

(6) MISREPRESENTATIONS.--Any provider of a
notification or counter notification who knowingly
materially misrepresents under this section--
(A) that a site is an Internet site dedicated
to the theft of U.S. property, or
(B) that such site does not meet the cri-
teria of an Internet site dedicated to the theft
of U.S. property,
shall be liable for damages, including costs and at-
torneys' fees, incurred by the person injured by such
misrepresentation as a result of the misrepresenta-
tion.

[Zod]

"There should be fines for false claim of copyright. "

(6) MISREPRESENTATIONS.--Any provider of a
notification or counter notification who knowingly
materially misrepresents under this section--
(A) that a site is an Internet site dedicated
to the theft of U.S. property, or
(B) that such site does not meet the cri-
teria of an Internet site dedicated to the theft
of U.S. property,
shall be liable for damages, including costs and at-
torneys' fees, incurred by the person injured by such
misrepresentation as a result of the misrepresenta-
tion.

the problem is "knowingly materially misrepresents"

good luck proving that in court

[Djinnkitty83]

then you sue them back and have them charged with perjury

Because they certainly don't have the money and lawyers to drag that out and break any one of us financially in the process, declaring victory through attrition, I mean that totally hasn't been their MO even before SOPA

Never mind the fact that this law goes about its alleged aims in a fashion that could cause massive collateral damage to a large number of sites whose only crime is being kinda-sorta-indirectly connected with possibly illegal filesharing, and of course it would never be abused by its main proponents who have a long history of thoroughly raping the law in their favour.

And while I'm all with TEO bashing, correct me if I'm wrong but the indefinite detention and various war threads have gotten just as much attention as this.

Edit:

<snip specifics of the law>

Once you find me legal representation someone who doesn't make six plus figures can afford, that can go toe-to-toe with industry lawyers who will finger-fuck various interpretations of 'knowingly materially misrepresents', for years if necessary, we're in business!