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Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:47 am
by zhaktronz
Almost all casual retail at least pays more than the minimum lol.
Look it gets the gist across
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:51 am
by starku
Casual data entry is about 21 private, 25 govt
But rent here is a result of laws limiting rent increases so rent was lagging behind if later property values for some time and now there's way under supply to they stay high
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:28 am
by Agent Bert Macklin
Zod wrote:zhaktronz wrote:Lol 17/hour
I make more than that at a super market
you'd have to give me six figures to get me to work retail again
I enjoyed worknig Black Friday a few years ago. It was quite fun actually being busy and not having to deal with taking $200 from someone to remove viruses.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:52 am
by Zod
Knubfuck wrote:Zod wrote:zhaktronz wrote:Lol 17/hour
I make more than that at a super market
you'd have to give me six figures to get me to work retail again
I enjoyed worknig Black Friday a few years ago. It was quite fun actually being busy and not having to deal with taking $200 from someone to remove viruses.
i worked retail for 9 months
between customers trying to pull a fast one and customers accusing me of racism to the simply outright idiotic customers it's simply not worth the stress
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:53 am
by zhaktronz
waaaaahhhhh waahhhh wahhhh
pooor widdle zod
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:56 am
by Zod
zhaktronz wrote:waaaaahhhhh waahhhh wahhhh
pooor widdle zod
i see you haven't taken your ritalin today
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:02 am
by zhaktronz
Maybe one day you will grow up and stop externalizing your own failures in life.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:39 am
by Phantasee
my only problem with retail was getting time off for final exams
they coincided with christmas shopping season
i enjoyed meeting new people and helping them solve their problems, or learning about how they solved their problems
i guess what i'm saying is, work in a less shitty retail environment, or develop people skills
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:41 am
by starku
i think he worked in a technical field
which is pretty much the worst shit ever
i worked tech support for small business for a few years and that was bad enough, i can't imagine dealing with people on th efloor of a store
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:46 am
by Zod
Phantasee wrote:my only problem with retail was getting time off for final exams
they coincided with christmas shopping season
i enjoyed meeting new people and helping them solve their problems, or learning about how they solved their problems
i guess what i'm saying is, work in a less shitty retail environment, or develop people skills
or i could just stick with my current plan of, y'know, not working in retail ever again which has worked out pretty well so far
retail jobs don't pay for shit
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:52 am
by starku
then we're right back to Only In America (tm) :V
honestly i can't wait for all the apartment buildings in the city to finish because it'll finally push down prices
you guys in america are lucky with your century+ of apartment buildings
even the collapsing ones owned by scary gypsies rented by the square meter
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:05 am
by zhaktronz
Phantasee wrote:my only problem with retail was getting time off for final exams
they coincided with christmas shopping season
i enjoyed meeting new people and helping them solve their problems, or learning about how they solved their problems
i guess what i'm saying is, work in a less shitty retail environment, or develop people skills
In Australia employers are legally obligated to give you time off for exams.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:07 am
by thejester
yeah it needs to be pointed out there remains an enormous gap between what employers are legally obligated to do and what they actually will do
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:09 am
by zhaktronz
thejester wrote:yeah it needs to be pointed out there remains an enormous gap between what employers are legally obligated to do and what they actually will do
I will admit my experience is skewed by only working at large companies.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:16 am
by starku
thejester wrote:yeah it needs to be pointed out there remains an enormous gap between what employers are legally obligated to do and what they actually will do
especially in casual
especially in the placement space where recruiters are generally more interested in relationship with the hiring party than the temp
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:29 pm
by Phantasee
zhaktronz wrote:Phantasee wrote:my only problem with retail was getting time off for final exams
they coincided with christmas shopping season
i enjoyed meeting new people and helping them solve their problems, or learning about how they solved their problems
i guess what i'm saying is, work in a less shitty retail environment, or develop people skills
In Australia employers are legally obligated to give you time off for exams.
Oh I got time off for my actual exams! Just no time off to actually study for them. I think I had a closing shift the night before a morning exam. I skipped it of course, it's why I left. They were probably going to fire me for missing so much work.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:41 pm
by timmy
Four years in retail(same company as Zak)
Two six month stints in pizza delivery
Seven years in hospitality and counting
I will probably never get out of customer service and yet I'm not too bothered by that.
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:17 pm
by Aaron
Found some zombie targets! Yay!
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:19 pm
by Zod
timmy wrote:Four years in retail(same company as Zak)
Two six month stints in pizza delivery
Seven years in hospitality and counting
I will probably never get out of customer service and yet I'm not too bothered by that.
i've been at my current job for 5 years
one of these days i'll move on to something less monotonous
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:38 pm
by Nietzslime
you know, i got disillusioned with academic english education a couple months back
in part to do with all the nonsense and outright sophistry involved
but i considered today that there might be a simpler motive behind my problems with it
i've had to read a lot of victorian literature in university
and i was reading a henry james story today
and i realized i fucking hate victorian literature
and i don't use the word 'hate' seriously very often.
i just can't stand everything about it. the ponderous, turgid, expository paragraphs, the affected, artificial, starchy style, the fucked up morals, the ingrained prejudices and biases, the tedious setting, how it's all so fucking normative and constrained and i can't connect with it at all
it actively irritates on me to read this shit
and i have to consume in en masse
welp
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:43 pm
by starku
how did you get to the university elvel without realising this
i mean i realised it in 1986
ps i don't mind the short stories but the novel-length stuff is stupid and dull
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:46 pm
by Aaron
Sherlock Holmes count?
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:48 pm
by Nietzslime
i have no idea how this didn't click for me consciously until now
that these were works where, rather than being able to get into a flow and read the whole thing in two days, i had to put it down for a while after every 5 pages
like, all the material for me realizing this was there
i knew the style was aggravating me, made fun of the descriptive phrases, etcetera
but it took until turn of the screw, the perfect encapsulation of everything wrong with them, that i realized that they really are all awful and primitive and i actively dislike every single aspect of them
i feel like the dude who's realized that he's in a bad relationship 2 years after everyone else did
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:49 pm
by starku
holmes is short and late victorian
that henry james guy is like mid-19th century literary figure
NUA is it henry james' thing as like 'realistic' in fingerquotes literature that did it
Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:54 pm
by Nietzslime
starku wrote:holmes is short and late victorian
that henry james guy is like mid-19th century literary figure
NUA is it henry james' thing as like 'realistic' in fingerquotes literature that did it
i wouldn't put it so specifically
but this book specifically is supposedly one of those great leaps forward in literature that has an unreliable narrator and such which were all important i guess*
but all i noticed was that it is terrible and i will burn it after i finish power-writing a term paper on it
but it is worth noting that the 'realists' like thomas hardy and henry james are if anything even more starchy, lifeless and completely fucking boring all the time than even previous victorian writers
like, dickens isn't that bad really
EDIT: this is the problem with reading important historical books versus other mediums. ancient art is still beautiful and interesting and even if it isn't, it isn't at all taxing either. big landmark films like citizen kane or battleship potemkin are still enjoyable movies to watch to this day. whereas early novels pretty much universally blow