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Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:01 am
by starku
that's absolutely true

appreciation of beauty or power changes a lot slower than appreciation of language

i mean look at henry james

imagine a world where PEOPLE HONESTLY TALK LIKE THAT

that's why it took so long to negotiate the peace of 1863

because everyone was a long-winded gasbag

what's interesting to me is when i was liek 15 i read lovecrafts survey of literature (whatever it is) and even he - EVEN HIM - said that most victorian era literature (specifically the limiting nature of the gothic tale) were boring horrible dogshit and there was almost no reason to ever read it
and he was the biggest sperglord of 1928

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:19 am
by Nietzslime
yeah, well

yeah

i don't have much to add to your insight to be honest, partially because i'm tired of thinking and writing about the evolution of the prose story right now

all of this is obvious in hindsight to me

it was just a matter of getting some perspective, i guess

and i already have an english minor completed (if i finish this one class, i guess) so no loss there

yay for what you antepodeans refer to as sharehousing

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:21 am
by starku
did you enjoy your previous coursework in the area

i mean when you're studying it's easy to see it as work or a job to do and ignore whether it's actaully any good

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:31 am
by Nietzslime
starku wrote:did you enjoy your previous coursework in the area

i mean when you're studying it's easy to see it as work or a job to do and ignore whether it's actaully any good
i enjoyed english under a few circumstances

1. creative writing was always fun, and i got positive reinforcement doing it since profs seemed to enjoy my work a lot

2. when the study area was legitimately cool, eg paradise lost

3. writing essays even on things that aren't great (such as some of milton's other work) was fun for some time because it was creative problem-solving where i could pull a bunch of theory, textual clues, and pure supposition together and invent an argument out of thin air. but after some time i realized that this kind of literal sophistry was ultimately unsatisfying

but as a whole, studying literary theory/ genre/ history/ etcetera, it really wasn't ever fun and i basically stayed in it out of pure inertia and by making my own fun

eg, in my literary theory class, i used every new critical theory we learned to prove that twilight was the greatest work of modern literature, making sure to note that i had not ever actually read twilight. my remarkable success in this venture is a good example of how doing #3 disillusioned english to me

edit: i think what happened is that i got into english through creative writing, which normally can't happen but i went straight into mid-level creative writing out of high school by going to the department directly

and though i realized soon that creative writing would only be a tiny, tiny fraction of the number of english classes i would take if i got an english major (and they were the only ones i was actually interested in)

i basically... just was kind of stupid and didn't think very clearly about my goals and my future and just took on more coursework because that seemed like the thing that people do, and as my peer group outside english recognized me as 'The english major guy who knows english' and i got a peer group inside english, i was blinded to the fact that i wasn't getting anything at all out of the experience

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:38 am
by Gands
The weather channel is good viewing.

Foxtel makes that shit interactive.

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:06 am
by Crazedwraith
you mean you get to pick and choose what weather you get today? Truly we are living in the future...

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:08 pm
by Zod
man the state of pay for the healthcare industry is kind of depressing

looking through some of the salary data for healthcare jobs at work, it turns out that mental health therapists in denver don't even make $17 an hour for an entry level position

on top of that they require a master's degree

highly experienced therapists don't even crack $25

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:34 pm
by starku
what the chirst is this

Image

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:42 pm
by Nietzslime
is the man from the 90s really so hard to understand

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:46 pm
by starku
look at him nos

LOOK AT HIM

really see him

what the FUKKK

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:12 pm
by Nietzslime
he has the wearied expression of a man who has carried our sins for too long

but the luxurious, silken mane of one who bears all the weight of the world like a feather

he is a paradox

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:22 pm
by starku
look the point is he's clearly jesus

he wears his nihilist black crew-neck to cover the wound from the spear of destiny as seen in wolfenstien

brandon the jaded mandarin

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:24 am
by Metatwaddle
i thought it was sad hipster kid rock

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:25 am
by starku
why does anyone care what a programmer thinks anyway

who knows the link doesn't work :V

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:26 am
by Zod
Metatwaddle wrote:i thought it was sad hipster kid rock
"really wants to be lemmy kilmister but can't pull it off"

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:48 am
by Metatwaddle
starku wrote:why does anyone care what a programmer thinks anyway
i dunno, i think this lady has him beaten in the no1curr department

Image

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:53 am
by Flagg
starku wrote:look the point is he's clearly jesus

he wears his nihilist black crew-neck to cover the wound from the spear of destiny as seen in wolfenstien

brandon the jaded mandarin
Man, spear of destiny. I still say Indiana Jones 4 should have been set in postwar Germany with Indy fighting Nazis trying to bring about the 4th Reich with the spear. The perfect setup for him being there is his identifying archeological shit stolen by the Nazis so it can be returned.

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:59 am
by Bakustra
Flagg wrote:
starku wrote:look the point is he's clearly jesus

he wears his nihilist black crew-neck to cover the wound from the spear of destiny as seen in wolfenstien

brandon the jaded mandarin
Man, spear of destiny. I still say Indiana Jones 4 should have been set in postwar Germany with Indy fighting Nazis trying to bring about the 4th Reich with the spear. The perfect setup for him being there is his identifying archeological shit stolen by the Nazis so it can be returned.
That doesn't really fit with the underlying approach of the movies as they progress in chronological order- they go from paganism to Old-Testament Judaism to Christianity. New-age religions are a natural progression of that, but the spear of Longinus is explicitly Christian. So you'd be kicking away the thematic coherency.

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:01 am
by Flagg
So where do aliums fit?

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:02 am
by Bakustra
Flagg wrote:So where do aliums fit?
The New Age. They're examples of modern mysticism and a modern religion, alongside psychic powers. KotCS didn't handle it well because the movie seemed to be crammed with various ideas that never quite panned out.

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:28 am
by adr-admin
starku wrote:Image
quoted for awesomeiminitude

that is the mang i wish i coul dbe

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:34 am
by Flagg
B-A-K-U-S-T-R-A wrote:
Flagg wrote:So where do aliums fit?
The New Age. They're examples of modern mysticism and a modern religion, alongside psychic powers. KotCS didn't handle it well because the movie seemed to be crammed with various ideas that never quite panned out.

Spear of destiny would have been cooler. Plus Nazis.

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:37 am
by starku
adr wrote:
starku wrote:Image
quoted for awesomeiminitude

that is the mang i wish i coul dbe
holy shit is his hair waist-length

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:40 am
by Nietzslime
preliminary research says yes

Re: The Testingtard's Lament: Boo-Hoo-in' Revolution

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:45 am
by starku
do you think that's why he's the face of wiki