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Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:46 pm
by Oxymoron
What about "dipshit" and other scat-related expressions ?

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:28 am
by Infinity Biscuit
Civil War Man wrote:You know, when you take a step back, it's interesting to consider how people are asking which insults they are allowed to use without offending people. The purpose of an insult is to offend, so wouldn't any word that could be considered sufficiently inoffensive not really be fit to be considered an insult?
I think Straha's on to something with his use of entirely barbless insults; words that indicate the other person is insulting you but have no intrinsic hurtfulness. "Falafel" and "butt" and stuff like that.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:41 am
by Gands
Fun fact: Cunt is periodically used as a term of endearment here.

It's all in the tone of delivery.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:50 pm
by Djinnkitty83
Gands wrote:Fun fact: Cunt is periodically used as a term of endearment here.

It's all in the tone of delivery.
Everyone's cool if I start using 'nigger' as a 'term of endearment', right? I mean, it's all in the tone of delivery.
Oxymoron wrote:What about "dipshit" and other scat-related expressions ?
All humans... hell, all animal life produces excrement. It's an unappealing subject unbound by race, gender, or orientation, so yeah, it's a 'safe' insult.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:11 pm
by Oxymoron
Duly noted.

Oh, and what about insults which would imply the targeted person is (un)dead to various degrees and/or cannibal ?

Trying to work out what is and isn't acceptable. You know, for science.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:13 pm
by joviwan
I think calling people zombies is fine.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:16 pm
by Oxymoron
But what if zombies exist and I offend them ?

...

There's only one way to make sure !

*grabs labcoat, welding goggles and a shovel*

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:10 pm
by Djinnkitty83
This isn't that hard, though I suspect you know this and are being obtuse for reasons best described as childish.

1: If an insult involves comparing someone unfavorably to an existing group with a history of discrimination/persecution, question whether you value using that specific slur over their comfort in not having something they consider a part of their identity completely disregarded and mocked for the sake of an offhand insult to someone else entirely.

2: If someone takes genuine offense to something you didn't think was offensive, the decent thing to do is say "Sorry, I didn't know," and try to refrain from using that slur in mixed company. The petulantly childish thing to do is complain about how nanny-nazis are infringing upon your freedom of speech and demanding a ridiculously hyperbolic list of what is and is not okay to say.

Is being a decent person really this much of an unreasonable burden?

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:13 pm
by joviwan
English is his second language, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to asking questions like 'what English insults/slurs should I avoid'

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:28 pm
by Oxymoron
*genuinely smile*

Djinn... I know that. But it only reinforce your point to keep explaining it like you did, to argue the point precisely and without ambiguity. And that is great.

As for the questions ? :lol: I was trying to turn away the subject of this thread from "let's see who can shitpost the most" to "let's come up with the most ridiculous non-offensive insults we can".

In short, I was trying to de-dramatize this whole clusterfuck. :D

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:30 pm
by joviwan
Trounce off you zombie falafel

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:34 pm
by Oxymoron
What you sayin', sparkly [1] ?



[1] :
referring here to Twilight and not somehow homosexuality, just defusing that one preemptively

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:29 pm
by joviwan
i will sparkle your mother you warthog-faced buffoon

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:57 pm
by Oxymoron
Says the porcelain seat.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:14 pm
by joviwan
chatteling aardvark

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:18 pm
by Civil War Man
Your type make me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:02 pm
by Djinnkitty83
Oxymoron wrote:What you sayin', sparkly [1] ?



[1] :
referring here to Twilight and not somehow homosexuality, just defusing that one preemptively
Sadly I would have taken that as a slam against Twilight before a gay slur.

Anyways, after my previous accusations, I've got some egg to clean off my face.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:26 am
by Gands
Djinnkitty83 wrote:
Gands wrote:Fun fact: Cunt is periodically used as a term of endearment here.

It's all in the tone of delivery.
Everyone's cool if I start using 'nigger' as a 'term of endearment', right? I mean, it's all in the tone of delivery.
Ooh, poor communication on my part. I wasn't trying to look like I was advocating such a thing. :(

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:24 pm
by Oxymoron
"Jerkface" and other masturbation-related insults are okay, right ?

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:37 pm
by Infinity Biscuit
From what I've read, the etymology for "jerk" as an insult came from locomotives, not masturbation. Plus, its use in American English at least is entirely based around the person being mean, not anything that should avoid being insulted. So it seems in the clear to me

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:03 pm
by Oxymoron
Cool ! One less insult I'll have to worry about if it offend people !

Thanks !

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:47 pm
by zhaktronz
Gands wrote:
Djinnkitty83 wrote:
Gands wrote:Fun fact: Cunt is periodically used as a term of endearment here.

It's all in the tone of delivery.
Everyone's cool if I start using 'nigger' as a 'term of endearment', right? I mean, it's all in the tone of delivery.
Ooh, poor communication on my part. I wasn't trying to look like I was advocating such a thing. :(
Nigger is used as a term of endearment in certain cultures

Stop being so culturally insensitive.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:01 pm
by Infinity Biscuit
There's a difference between a word being reclaimed by the group it was used to hurt and it continuing to be used by those to whom it wasn't directed.

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:02 pm
by Oxymoron
zhaktronz wrote:Nigger is used as a term of endearment in certain cultures
Which one(s), by curiosity ?

Re: Bitching bitching.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:16 am
by zhaktronz
African American culture